Why you'll go to hell

I have lost count of the posts I have read on this forum that begin "I used to be a Christian but..." and they go on to rant about whatever they think hell is and why they don't deserve to go there. Of course, what these "used to be" Christians don't seem to know is that by repudiating their Christianity they have sentenced themselves to the hell they think is so unjust. Not because they don't believe, mind you, it's because they have rejected the salvation they once had. It's not enough for them to have doubts - no, they have to denounce their own salvation once and for all, just to teach people like me a lesson. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

So, as they throw themselves off the cliff they blame God for their own decision. All God says is "have it your way". He would rather not have you do it, but this is your decision to make. And you have made it yourself.

 

We are no more afraid of your imaginary Hell than we are seduced by your imaginary Heaven.

 

Unless you’re wrong and the real god will punish those who blindly follow a particular popular set of ancient writings and reward those who independently think for themselves.

I’m also not sure what you expect Christians who stop believing to do. Should they lie and pretend that they still believe? Should they just keep their heads down and blindly go through the motions in the vein hope of another revelation?

 

I don't expect anything.

 

Wrong, if there is a god and he sends people to hell he does so because he wants it that way, Yours is clearly a megalomaniac bastard with severe parenting issues since he wanted his own son as a human sacrifice.

 

This OP is laughable. Just reflects the brainwashed mentality of the Christian cult.

 

Most 'I used to be a christian' don't go on the rant about what they think hell is. They don't believe in Hell.

 

Even more laughable and ridiculous is that one persons 1/2 day crucifixion payed the price for billions ET.

 

Having read your silly book of fables (from cover to cover) I'm well aware that there is only one unforgivable sin and that is denying or blaspheming the "Holy Spirit".

That being said let me take the time here and now to deny and tell this mythological "holy ghost" of yours to go (*)(*)(*)(*) it's self!

There now I'm really going to hell for sure!!!

But please don't fret for me because I would much rather spend eternity burning forever in "hell" than spend it with a bunch of sanctimonious narcissistic worshipers of a god that demands Jewish soldiers to smash little babies heads against rocks as their mothers watch on in horror knowing they are next!

 

I've heard plenty of Christians make a convincing Biblical and rational case for universal salvation. If God is just, I have nothing to worry about. If God is unjust, then I have no reason to follow him.

 

A like is not enough. BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!

 

The day I start believing in gods will be my first day in Hell.

 

You’re identifying a group of people you believe will be condemned to Hell because of their decisions so you must think there are alternative decisions they could make in their circumstances, decisions that would presumably save them from Hell. I was just curious as to what you think those alternative decisions could be?

 

They claim to have once been Christians, they know what the choices are. This thread is not about that, it's about people who complain about how unjust hell is, then make the decision of their own free will to go there, wherever hell really is.

I heard someone say once that no matter how bad things get on earth, we always know there will always be a tomorrow with another chance to get it right. He said that hell is just like that, only it is without hope, and the worst of it is you sent yourself there.

 

Just more cultist rhetoric. Being a victim of cult propaganda and leaving it does not constitute one choosing g self torment. Your assertion is complete BS.

 

Why does this bug you guys so much? I am just explaining the theology to the "used to bes". Methinks thou protesteth too much.

 

When they were Christian they had a set of beliefs as to what the choices are. If they’re no longer Christian, they’ll likely now have a different set of beliefs as to what the choices are (and what isn’t a choice at all).

Some people will suggest that the concept of Hell is unjust but most of those people won’t believe Hell actually exists. It’s not a challenge to a god they don’t believe exists, it’s a challenge to the believers who obviously do exist. Many ex-Christian probably view you in very much the same way you view them.

 

Because it is a lame OP.

Most people who are atheist started out with some religious background simply because most people are raised with it to one extent or another.

Your op is based on a premise that apostates turned away from religious because they did not like what their former religion say about hell.

This requires some support because I have never heard ANY former person of faith state that they changed their mind because of the mythology of hell.

In other words you need to back up your claim because your premise is weak and most likely dreamed up

 

As a practicing agnostic, I think I can offer some clarity. [MENTION=50544]maat[/MENTION] is scared of Christianity, and has not yet been saved. Others like this person fear that they have wasted too much time ignoring god because it's the "hip" thing to do- that they think god will not accept them.

 

Theologically, once you are a Christian you will always be one UNTIL you repudiate your Christianity. Then you are on your own.

And no, this is not a challenge to me, this is an active, malignant hatred of anything having to do with the Christian God. I don't see them badmouthing Allah, Shiva, or Zeus, who theoretically shouldn't exist either in their universe. If they were intellectually honest they would have a problem with Allah, especially sine the followers of Allah actually do the things they falsely accuse us of doing.

 

You apparently have nothing to say and are taking up a lot of bandwidth saying it.

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I thought the explanation was a lot simpler.

 

They'll just keep trolling until they get the thread closed.

 

Actually what I said was concise and to the point. You just have no defense for your innacurate Op and are running from it.

 

Do you read this forum? If you have then you have seen what I am talking about.

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Do you read this forum? If you have then you have seen what I am talking about.

 

Ok ok ok....let's all be rational here, and not turn into a Trump rally....

Atheists, your message:
While you pride yourself on your vast logicality, you've failed to realize the purpose of religion in the first place. Religion explains the unexplainable, and brings together a community. Now, modern science has proven a lot of things in the Bible wrong, like Adam and Eve, and the Earth being the center of the universe. But some things have not been disproven yet. And so, in the spirit of the Enlightenment, you only believe in what you can prove correct, but, if something is not proven wrong, then you can't dismiss its possible reality. For example, the reason we've pondered the question of, Is there life beyond Earth, is because we have not yet proven there is, and yet, we can't prove that there isn't. So the fact remains that it is still a question, with no real answer yet. We haven't proven God does not exist, but we haven't proven that He does, so He is still a question. Now, logically speaking, if He does exist, then why damn yourself to hell? Why not be somewhat pious? Because if you aren't and it turns out He did exist, then you're on a date with Satan. If He doesn't exist and there is no afterlife, well then you've been a good person your whole life, and that's a mighty fine thing.

Religious folks, your turn:
First read the above, and pat yourself on the back a bit. Now, the point of piety is not to convert the unbelievers, damn the sinners when you are but a mere man, and pick and choose from the Bible to suit your needs. Jesus preached loving thy neighbour, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not covet, and all of these very beautiful things. And yet, the most "pious" "Christians" and "pious" "Muslims" do none of that. They like the parts about killing the unbelievers and Jihad, but not the most basic communal virtues. Even the most basic Christian prayer is often abandoned in your zeal. Do you think that, in heaven, God is building walls and banning Muslims and all of this other "Christian" things? The, "Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven" part of "Our Father" should be reality. We forgive those who trespass against us, not fight them. Sinners are the ones who deserve the most friendly treatment, not a blunt, "you're going to Hell".

Anyways, that was possibly the most religious thing I've ever said, but I rest my case. No need for name calling, no need for fighting. Let's all look at this rationally.