Jaw dropping- New 9/11 footage destroys main stream narrative

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Mostly they're just very bored people. But some do know stuff - stuff that we prefer to dismiss rather than have to contend with. And yes, there is immense societal pressure to laugh off any and all 'theories' of a conspiratorial nature. Those engaging in actual conspiracies rely upon this social pressure to do what they do. They know that anyone suggesting the thing will be instantly branded a fruitloop.

    It's a difficult thing. We can't believe most of these theories, but we must believe some if we're to understand just how money and politics works at the pointy end.

    Meantime, history is the best source of evidence that truth is sometimes far stranger than fiction.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Yes, indeed. That is always a possibility.
     
  3. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Yes, powerful people have been known to cooperate with each other on evil projects. We usually find out after they all die.
     
  4. Bob0627

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    So you're saying all detectives, attorneys, prosecutors, intelligence agents, etc. are mentally deficient? And all federal, state and local conspiracy statutes were enacted by mentally deficient legislators and signed into law by mentally deficient Presidents and Governors? Many of these are trained and make a career out of being conspiracy theorists. I guess outside of those, only government stooges who ask no questions are sane. CIA indoctrination much?
     
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    This guy gets it!!!!


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  6. crank

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    To reference a personal experience not remotely on the scale of most conspiracy theories, but nevertheless a shock at the time ...

    I (and two friends) was once witness to an arson. Detective in charge of case advises us during investigations that the perp was known to have been responsible for a long string of similar arson attempts, but had been frustratingly difficult to hold and charge. Hearing day arrives ... detective in charge snaffles us on way into court house to say hearing cancelled as perp had 'suicided'. He actually winked as he said it.

    That put paid to any fantasies I had about how things really work.
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Otoh
    Fiction is better written than truth, and much more popular
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right. I'll buy some tin foil tomorrow.
     
  9. Soupnazi

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    They did not tell of bombs going off.

    They described explosions and the sounds of explosions which is normal when buildings burn and collapse or when planes crash.

    As always the twoofers have no evidence of bombs or explosives or conspiracy

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    Conspiracies and conspiracy theory are two different things.

    You do not even have a theory you have fantasy.

    Over a decade bow and you have never been able to find a speck of evidence to support any of your conspiracy theories.

    Yes it is mentally deficient
     
  10. Soupnazi

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    You ignore that explosions are not necessarily caused by bombs.

    It is normal to hear explosions when buildings burn and collapse and when planes crash this does not equal bombs.

    Silverstein admitted no such thing. His use of the term pull it refers to the fire fighters working near building seven and not to anything else
     
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    Good idea, those scary CT people are everywhere.
     
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    As the towers collapsed from top to bottom, the force of each floor on the next was increased by the number of floors above it. The pressure would have increased exponentially and would have exerted enormous increasing pressure on the floors below. The explosion sound was all that weight from the collapsing floors above which would have caused an explosive and sudden collapse of the support structures below and the pressure would have been increasing as each floor collapsed.

    As the floors came down on top of each other, by the time they got to the lower middle the pressure on the floors below would have been astronomical. The compressed air alone would cause a boom sound for sure.
     
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    Definitely Bin Laden hedging his bets then.
     
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    Denial? Fireworks sound like gunfire. Large heavy collapsing concrete could sound like explosions. That's not denial, that's plausible. Also, in a collapse, explosions are likely depending on gas line or other volatile equipment [even as simple as gas tanks in cars]. For someone to know there are bombs during the situation that was unfolding would mean they WOULD have to SEE them IMO otherwise it's speculation.

    Since this was clearly a terrorist incident with planes, EVERYONE was assuming more terrorist activities and ANY sound that was like an explosion (something heavy falling, or an actual gas/car explosion or otherwise) would make people jumpy and assume the worst.

    I've heard workmen drop heavy items from the first floor into a large dumpster and it sounded like a bomb.



    So if they had inside knowledge... hound them for answers. Take one sentence how you want, people say things that aren't true or factually incorrect all the time. Especially when emotions and adrenaline are high.
     
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    IMO, you mix up two things: Physics and the nervous system. Nerves can make a body twitch, but not switch places like that. It is way more restrained as the object gets heavier. A deer, a bear, or an American President are quite heavy - they are not the size of a hen, whose nerves can literally make it jump and run.

    I am telling you - I hunt every fall, and I have never seen any body react to a fired shot the way the President did - even with small prey like coyotes. I am pretty sure neither did you.

    And anyway, why are we arguing? It is evident that the killing shot comes from the front - just look at the video - it's quite obvious, really, if it wasn't for this national polarisation we're in.

    Like I've wrote, a fact is much less important than the manner with which it is presented.
     
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    The fatal head shot did not come from the front it came from behind and above.

    The movement and motion of a body as a reaction to being shot does not indicate where the shot came from. The medical evidence however does and it proves there was no frontal shot
     
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    Wrong there is no predictability of how buildings fall

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    Wrong.

    He did not switch places he simply jerked which is normal regardless of where the shot came from/

    You are losing this one and demonstrating why conspiracy theorists fail. The evidence crushes your claim
     
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    Wrong,

    There is simply no evidence of explosives or bombs but there is massive evidence of fire and structural damage causing the buildings to collapse.

    It is you repeating a mantra in hopes of appearing intelligent and informed while willfully ignoring the evidence.

    And before you claim NISt and other official investigations ere fakes or frauds you have to prove it. You have made that claim many times and refuse to offer factual evidence.

    In fact you have never provided any evidence of any kind or fact but only repeated assertions

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    They sometimes do.

    They in fact react unpredictably as all living things do when shot and you have never shot anything.

    You are no shooter and are ignorant about shooting
     
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    Skyscrapers don't fall straight down in their own footprint, unless explosives have been used.

    This due to the fact that the top of a building (which is lightest) can't fall through the bottom of a building (which is heaviest), which is based upon Newton's Law.
     
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    Wrong they sometimes do.

    Neither is your fact a true fact
     
  21. Flare

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    They don't. They only do when controlled demo and 3 x on 9-11 in New York... while only 2 buildings were hit by a plane.
     
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    Yes they sometimes do you are wrong and manufacturing claims you cannot support.
     
  23. Ddyad

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    That is indeed how things can work. Which is why we have so many laws against conspiracy. Conspiracies can be very effective and dangerous.
     
  24. Flare

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    Could you give another example then?

    Lol, like if 3 super-skyscrapers (while only 2 were hit by planes) in the heart of the financial district in NY will just fall down at almost freefall speed.

    You really believe that?
     
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    Americans don't keep secrets? That is a false statement. The good people of Boston kept secret (sorta) the perverted acts of numerous Catholic priests and bishops for decades. They even made a movie about it, and it won an Oscar.

    Where ya been?
     

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