Man dies of thirst in jail run by pro-Trump sheriff after being denied water for days

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  1. Nordic Democrat

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    http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/man-dies-trump-loving-sheriffs-jail-denied-water-almost-week/

    Any LEO that was in any way involved in this should be tried for murder. This is beyond sickening. This not Mexico, this is the USA. American law enforcement are the most unprofessional, dimwitted, cruel, violent, psychos this country has to offer. You think you see it all, well not with our cops!
     
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    It sounds like you think we should get rid of all law enforcement personnel, since they are according to you, dimwitted, cruel, violent, psychos. What do you think we should replace them with?
     
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    I want professional LEO's. My time in Europe (7 years plus) allowed me to see how well trained officers operate. They do not kill unarmed people, they use tasers to get suspects to comply. They do not arrest for bogus things like small drugs possession, prostitution, etc. so the public trusts them and aren't harassed daily. I asked a London officer for directions and we ended up having a 5 minute convo. I asked an NYPD officer for directions and he told me to "keep it moving". The Dutch police are extremely friendly and professional. I saw them arrest a Moroccon who must have stolen something. Very calmly they searched him, took a knife he had and some merchandise, and quietly put him in their car. Not once was a gun drawn, not once did they verbally insult or assault the suspect, it seemed like a military operation.

    We shouldn't have to put up with the current police we have now, it's a danger to everyone.
     
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    Clearly, since the LEOs are, according to you, dimwits, then they all need to be fired as it is not possible to magically raise people's IQs. Where would you find tens of thousands of people with drastically higher IQs than what we currently have who would be willing and capable of doing the job?
     
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    Most of them do need to be fired, yes. We have over 100 million working aged adults, we can find better quality officers. We have to, we cannot have this pro police brutality vs anti-policing debate anymore. We have to actually fix the problem. Look at the military, MUCH more highly qualified than our domestic LEO's. That's for absolute sure.
     
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    Many police officers are ex-military. Try again.
     
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    No, no. We don't hire ex military after they've done their tour and are suffering from aggravated medical conditions and ptsd. I am talking about hiring qualified people. Most cops would not be allowed to serve in the military because they are so unstable, violent and psychotic.
     
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    Yeah... I punch code for a living. I don't want to deal with that filth. Who is going to do this thankless (*)(*)(*)(*)ing job where the description means frequent battles with scumbags trying to kill you?
     
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    The same people who become Marines?
     
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    I read the title and though what were "pigs" doing in a jail cell

    that said, if they denied him water for that long, then yes, it is murder imo
     
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    Those are the dimwits you are referring to currently. More than 60% of cops have military backgrounds.
     
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    I wasn't suffering from anything when I got back. It is starting to sound to me like you are just making up nonsense.

    And I'm asking you where you are going to find tens if not hundreds of thousands of these qualified people who currently (if they exist) have no interest in going into law enforcement.

    I'm not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. Can you cite the study you are referencing that states most cops are unstable, violent and psychotic? Or are you again just making up nonsense?
     
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    You pulled that number out of nowhere because there is zero data on how many LEO's are ex military. Some are sure, but as LEO's they are not required to adhere to nearly the same standards as a US soldier.

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    Did I say all soldier returning have those issues? No, but far too many do. Not their fault, our leaders get rich from defense contracts. Post a "hiring" sign, and people will show up. Our unemployment rate is abysmal. I can show you evidence, but I don't have every single video from every single day for the last 10 years to put in your face. Sounds like you're trying to dismiss this serious issue, not sure why.
     
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    Why aren't these highly qualified people applying for the job?
     
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    Misleading thread title.
    Here I am thinking feral pigs busted into jail and ate a man.
     
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    Would you call the cops if there were people breaking into your house? Its a yes or no.
     
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    I challenged you to support your seemingly absurd assertion that "most cops are unstable, violent and psychotic". Are you going to support your assertion or not?

    This isn't about me dismissing an issue as this thread is not about me.

    I gave you the opportunity to present your solution, which you failed to do. Telling us we need to hire professionals then not being able to tell us how you are going to fire most cops and hire all these unemployed professional and qualified people who, if they exist, are clearly not interested in becoming police officers is not a solution.

    You have also chosen to ignore the fact that a large portion of the "unstable, violent and psychotic" cops were in the military, even though it has been pointed out at least twice. Can you explain how those people's IQs dropped into the "dimwit" region when they became cops. How could they have been in the military and have been, in your own words, "MUCH more highly qualified than our domestic LEO's" then suddenly became again, in your own words, "dimwitted pigs"?
     
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    Today's cops? No, I'd rather not take the chance of being killed. I want professionals showing up, not deranged lunatics like the in the OP.

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    Because nobody wants to work with a bunch of frat bros. As the culture is eliminated, better people will apply.

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    Because nobody wants to work with a bunch of frat bros. As the culture is eliminated, better people will apply.

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    Because nobody wants to work with a bunch of frat bros. As the culture is eliminated, better people will apply.
     
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    It's not absurd, look at the evidence. Every day, another new video, plus everything the cameras do NOT see.

    Yes, the solution IS to fire most of them, and to re-hire qualified people. The reason nobody wants to be a cop today is because the culture is rotten, so why would any normal person want the job? Change the toxic culture, you get better people. It's common sense.

    You have no proof the majority of cops are ex military, there are no studies that gather stats on this, so you're pulling that out of nowhere. The military trains better, and for a lot longer. The military has consequences for killing civilians, not something seen in American law enforcement.
     
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    Good. Excellent. But what would you do if they break in and start raping your daughters? What is your plan?
     
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    Attack them with a large machete.
     
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    Well, that excuse is a first for me.
    Couldn't possibly be any other reasons, huh? Like pay? To name one of many.
     
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    You sound like a great dad. That's the right thing to do.
     
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    Cops get decent pay and excellent retirement benefits. They are unionized as well. Funny, this is the one job where conservatives WANT more pay haha. Biased much?
     
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