Physical beauty- Objective or subjective? Cultural or universal?

Stereotype. Not true,

In our evolutionary past, it might have been. Since then it might be hardwired into our brains. Just as tall and muscular no longer, necessarily, means a man is healthy. Women still like that.

I do not really care and most men actually do not care about the size of breasts at all. Most men prefer firm breasts and an "S"-shaped body with good hip ratio.

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Sort of...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...e-attracted-to-women-with-feminine-faces.html

 

It is not a stereotype. Like I said, I have OBSERVED this for myself.

I highly doubt that small breasts were ever a sign of bad health, unless the person is too skinny everywhere.

I would disagree in that most men prefer smaller breasts. I've watched what men like, and the women they seem to like have large breasts. It seems to be that a lot of cleavage is a turn on for many (if not most) men. I think if you prefer smaller breasts, you may be in the minority here. I am speaking of American men of course.

Well this makes no sense. On the one hand, you say that men prefer large hips and this and that, and now you tell me that they prefer child-like women? You see? You guys make no sense at all.

Your link doesn't say anything about women who look like children. It says "feminine" looking. A woman can look feminine without looking like a child. Lol.

 

2 is wider at the hip, but 1 has a better face.

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We're talking attraction here, not functionality.

 

So, which one then?

That post was more directed towards Ritter, who was saying that the reason why men would be attracted to a hippy woman is because of birthing babies, but the fat around a woman's hips has nothing to do with giving birth.

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Well to me, the second example looks kind of on the "fat" side. I would not want to be that large. I find the body on number 1 to be more attractive and more sexy.

 

You aren't in America so we are in two different cultures here. So . . . I think the "cultural beauty" thing may not be too far off. American men do in fact like big huge breasts.

The woman below is not exceptionally attractive. However, she has very large breasts, and men here in America would fall over themselves to speak to her. Lol.

 

You seem to want absolutes - either all in or all out. We're attracted to many different types. I like naked women but I like women in burkas as well. What I find odd is how women see themselves and the power of Victoria's Secret. Do you really need matching bras and pantys to attract a man? baby doll pajamas are very sexy, but if you're at the point where you're showing him your baby dolls, no more attraction is required. That'd be like dangling bait at a fish that's hooked and in the boat. Save your money.

 

Confirmation bias.

There you go.

These women "most men like" you are refering to, are they just a pair of boobs on two legs or do they - maybe - happen to have other traits such as good skin, good hair, big eyes, a nice figure and other feminine traits?

Overweight women have big breasts too, how many men look at these?

Has to do with T-levels. Maybe.

True.

 

I would bet that girl is Chinese.

Notice a difference? This woman is Thai.
My last gf was 5'81/2" and built like a pitbull Barbie doll.
Petite? No
Womanly? Yes. I'm a fan of big pretty eyes.

 

As far as the body builders go, if I was talking with two men, one a body builder and the other a skinny guy, and the skinny guy made me laugh and was funny, I would pick the skinny guy over the body builder hands down. A sense of humor is something that is very attractive to me.

 

Ahhh. Thank you. That's what I've been saying all along. There is no "subjective" beauty and beauty is more than just facial symmetry or big breasts or big hips. Thank you for making my point.

We buy matching bras and panties and frilly lacy things because WE like pretty and delicate looking things. Is that okay?

 

I am not talking about romantic love which is just all about the kick it gives oneself, I am solely talking about physical attraction.

Who would catch your eye- Mr.Skrony or Mr.Muscular?

 

I said that about hips and it's true. But it was first said by some scientist studying sexual attraction.
I prefer #1. Also the thing about Asian women is - they seem to have flawless skin, which is very attractive.

 

I am not entirely denying cultural and medial impact. Never did. I am just saying certain traits are considered beautiful everywhere.

Looks absolutely ridiculous!

 

Well, I don't know if I agree with "science" when it comes to sexuality. There are many women who have more narrow hips who are very sexy and attractive. The woman below is very, very attractive and has quite narrow hips.



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Well, I think it is just to subjective to be able to say anything with any kind of absoluteness. It just depends on many different factors.

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Neither am I. Some types of personality really get me . . . well you know. Even more so than looks (as long as he isn't hideous, as I said before), the personality is what really counts for me.

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I can only see her from the top of her chest up, so I can't really say. But many men are attracted to TINY Asian girls.

 

Oh.That's not my thing.Those tall,lean,brunette GA girls are attractive.
Stronger than they look,too.
An example can be seen on "California Psychic" commercial.
Have you ever seen those teeny Mexican women and men?
Not my thing.

 

Pretty much ideal beauty imo.

Nah. Nature is pretty deterministic.

You have watched "Beauty and The Beast" way too many times.

PS. Romance and physical attraction are still seperate.

Because they look like women ffs!

 

I really do think that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." I think this thread kind of proves it too.

 

I concur!

 

I don't think romantic and physical attraction are separate for women. Not for me anyways. While I can admire a man's good looks, I don't feel sexually attracted to him or turned on by him unless I get to know him. I think for women, being turned on is more of a "tactile" experience anyways.

 

Noooooooooooooooooo! Typical female empathetic, pathos-BS.

 

Let me put it in another way, a man can strip down naked in front of me, and I'm not really going to be "turned on" that much until we kiss, touch, caress, etc. I can admire his body and think he looks great, but I'm not really going to be sexually turned on until we touch. Maybe I'm just weird though, I don't know.

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Well, we've seen the wide variety of things that men claim to find attractive, but then you show them the opposite and they think that is attractive as well, so yeah, it depends on a lot of different factors. There is really no way to pin it down, sorry to tell you.

 

I see good-looking women every day without falling in love.

You little oxytocine addict!

 

I think you're trying to stereotype men. The lack of a certain feature (wide hips), can be over-ruled by a pretty face and a cheery personality. Asians have great skin and that's attractive. If we all were attracted to the same type of woman then 75% of you might as well leave the planet. Then again it's hard to believe what any of you want since you don't seem to know yourselves, but it doesn't matter anyway since in the end, we all get laid.

 

My point is that good looking doesn't mean anything if there isn't something about his personality that I find attractive. He could be the best looking man in the world, but if he is a "stick in the mud" then he won't do anything for me. I think men are MUCH more visual creatures than women.

 

This a different matter. That men and women are different and turned on by different thing is not a secret, except fir the one with a phD in Gender studies.

No. What we have actually seen is that my thesis stands strong;

Men like
Big eyes
Small faces
Curvy body
Firm breasts and good hip ratio
Full lips
Feminine personality

Women like
Full set of hair
Strong jaw line
Tall and strong bodies
Masculinity

Both like
Symetric faces.