Scott Walker: the Latest Racist Advocate of Voter ID Exposed

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As a Wisconsin resident and someone who volunteers to drive people (Black) to the DMV, I have never had seen anyone tell me they ran into a problem, and that includes no birth certificate. In all cases, everyone got a temporary state ID until their permanent one was delivered. Now, this is in Milwaukee County, not Dane County where Madison is. I see this as much ado about nothing. Just stupid DMV employees in Dane. Mind you, I cannot stand Scooter Walker but I see no conspiracy here.

 

So your girlfriend wouldn't marry you because you're abusive?

So how easy loaded questions are?

 

I know that relatively outdated Victorian rules of grammar are passé at this point, but saying, “Me and my ex went ...” instead of, “My ex and I went ...” when you are asserting that you belong to a superior race is rather comical.

And then you compounded the problem by failing to figure out the bulk of my criticism.

 

Apparently the judge agrees with me.

Having all detractors on an alt right, white nationalist forum is a good indicator that I am right ... especially when there are 12 pages.

 

Sorry, I don't play the non sequitur game.

This thread has nothing to do with the merits of ID. And here is a just a little hint, since you so badly want to change the subject: The founding fathers didn't think democracy was a hopeless fantasy just because the photograph hadn't been invented yet.

 

Wrong. By definitions, it is not racist. You can call it something else, but it isn't racist. When people are treated equally regardless of race, that's not racism. Get a dictionary if you're still having trouble. If it's impacting blacks more than another group, look at the black community and figure it out why, because it isn't because of the law.

When people like you stop treating blacks like they're dumber and less capable, then we'll get rid of racism.

To see, how about you try to explain why it affects them differently. You'll not come up with a single thing that has anything to do with the law, you'll only come up with reasons that pertain to the black community.

 

Proving who you are is not racist.

 

The judge did not agree with you...can you point out where he said anything about racism or Jim Crow?

I'm not the topic, genius.

 

These are irrelevant. Indeed, the law could end up disenfranchising more whites and still be racist. I'm sorry if you don't grasp this.

The only question that matter is whether making some eligible voters jump through hoops will be more arduous, on average, for black voters than it is for white voters.

Because it is a given that any new hoop to jump through when applied to millions of people will result in some of them being disenfranchised.

 

If there are any racist elements, no matter how minute, and it is instituted by OUR government, then how can failing to advocate for removing that element eradicated be anything short of being considered supporting institutional racism?

 

Except it is. The North Carolina law was struck down because the state (of North Carolina) went before the judges and unabashedly explained how the new laws target blacks.

The judge wrote that the law disenfranchised blacks with “almost surgical precision.”

Why aren't you railing against racist Republicans in North Carolina who passed that law?

 

Now you are showing your ignorance.

If the law disenfranchises more whites than blacks then how can you claim it is racist toward blacks?

You've displayed nothing but hatred for whites in this thread and then try to claim that everyone else is racist...you're a fool and I've wasted enough time thinking you might have a little sense.

Sadly I was wrong. Bye.

 

Our courts rely on historical precedents. Those are legion. And they make it crystal clear that those kinds of antics are racist.

 

Well here is how that works, since you don't want to spend the two minutes to think it through.

Suppose one candidate is Hitler, and Jews are highly motivated to vote against him, so turnout among Jews is expected to be 90 percent. And the rest of the population is way more apathetic and projections are that only 40 percent will vote. So a pro Hitler state passes a law that would make 50 percent of Jews jump through a new hoop, in order to vote, but would only make 10 percent of the rest of the voters to jump through the same loop.

Now, if the Jews, being highly motivated work very hard to overcome the racist new law, suppose they get 45 percent of the 50 percent to jump though the hoop, while non Jews only can motivate 4 percent of the ten percent.

So in the end, 6 percent of non Jews were disenfranchised, but only 5 percent of Jews were.

But it is still a racist law for obvious reasons.

 

It's comical to watch liberals run around like their hair was on fire over voter ID. Minority voting increased NOT decreased.

 

Well, if you were in charge, maybe you could get away with that, but you are not in charge.

It is extremely relevant that each person is treated the same. If all are treated equally, it has nothing to do with race.

With your ACT scores, even you ought to know that.

The blacks entered that place knowing first what they would find.

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They don't care. They only love complaining.

 

What you are telling us, over and over is that blacks simply are not that smart.

The whites being smart manage to do this with little problem.

You leave us no other path.

 

I gave you a perfect example, which you ignored.

Did my example say anything about how badly you batter your wife?

No, it did not.

It also said nothing about blacks or intelligence. Indeed, the oppressed group in my hypothetical example were Jewish.

So at this point saying I am calling blacks stupid is a flagrant lie.

 

Non sequitur? How so?
You stated voter ID was a useless law. Hence it must be your opinion that people's should not be required to own ID's. Isn't that your arguement that id's are too difficult to obtain, especially for black people?
You also argued that some good and responsible people do not or should not have to obtain id's.
These are your arguments are they not?
It's only logical to conclude you see no use for personal identification.
WTF?
If these are not your arguements then you have coherently expressed none at all.

My question would be why would any person or group wish blacks to go through life without proper ID? They are required for so many of today's tasks.

As for the founding fathers not requiring photo ID's. Nice try. You are now arguing that id's should not be a requirement for anything now aren't you. Right back at square one with your none sequter arguement.
You've also blown one of the lefts favorite arguements concerning the 2nd amendment out the window. The founders only considered muskets when framing the document. It was blown anyway but they're not gonna be happy with you blowing it further.

Bottom line you haven't a clue what your ranting about which is why you've used the word racist more in this thread than I've ever seen on this forum. There's been many questions asked of you on this thread. Try answering some with coherence. If you can't we know why.

 

I realize your hands are patting yourself on your back so furiously you are in danger of knocking yourself out, but that was not a good example.

We can stick to facts and not use Godwin's law.

I think if you ask the forum, those who have tried to explain this to you will see that my point is valid.

The complaint is over ID laws.

But those laws are the same for both sides. Black/white

If white does well, has no problems, but black suffers and has problems, we know that black is not very smart.

Not by tiny numbers, and not all blacks. I am positive many if not most blacks register since they have proper proof of birth.

Consider this. Say a lot of white canadians cross our border and will vote for Trump. but they can't show an american BC.

And they whine it is racist since they are white and clearly whites get blocked.

Also, people try to vote in two states. They will vote in CA and not many miles away vote in Nevada. They have ways to claim the live in each state.

Illegal alien wants a ballot he can use at home. So he lies on the form and claims to be a citizen. I know of no state that seeks proof they are legally here. To do so means they need a BC or proof of citizenship.

No, it is not race at all. It is the smart people wanting to vote pick up a BC and show it. End of problem. Black or white, no big deal.

 

Who doesn't have some form of ID these days except illegals? They knew the election is held every 4 years. Why do they wait until the last minute? Probably because they aren't eligible...

 

I will repeat one more time.

I am positive since I went through this that to hold a RE Brokers license in CA means you will comply by handing the state a certified birth certificate. They make no bones about it. As well, you will have your background checked by the FBI.

I don't know to what extent the FBI checked us out, but I know they have our finger prints. We are in the state and federal system.

Appraisers also must enjoy a FBI background check and they too will hand in their birth certificate. Not a facsimile of one, but a certified true copy.

Why we had to that but voters escape puzzles me.

I would believe lawyers do the same thing we do.

It would not shock me to learn teachers also show proof of citizenship using their birth certificates.

If voting is so important, the least one can do is show proof they are a citizen.

The old i want to register in WI but lived recently in ILL does not shake for me. The voters in ILL may well cross over and vote in two states. states must preserve voting rights in each state. It is not federal, each state has rules.

Think of it more like this.

America has 51 governments. 50 in 50 states then the bozos in DC that essentially manage the federal level. They do not manage states affairs.

 

When I worked at a local food bank, I spent some time working the front end. I assisted the full time person who had to see who was showing up. I saw many Mexican drivers licenses used as proof. We were not state operated. But each person has a page to fill out telling the food bank a bit about yourself. If you are a single mom with 2 kids, they need to know that. They give out more food the larger the family is.

 

I do not not understand how black have such a hard time getting an id. I find it hard to believe that there are that many people out there with out id.

 

I forgot to talk of the founders.

America did not vote for presidents until around 1828 I believe. Prior to that, the electors handled all of it and they got picked by each state. A mistake in judgment caused the citizens to suddenly play a role. I believe this very sincerely we are in error by we citizens voting for presidents.

They set up a very good system and that is the system that ought to be used.
When people say they voted for Obama because he gave them a cell phone, that really stinks.

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