Obama Warned To Defuse Tensions With Russia

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There have been questions lately who is in control of the country, the White House or the Pentagon. Are we under civilian or military control? Well according to the ex Intelligence officials, they want Obama to reassert his control and to stop demonizing Vladimir Putin and the growing tensions with Russia.

    Here is part of the letter sent to President Obama:



    ALERT MEMORANDUM FOR: The President

    FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

    SUBJECT: PREVENTING STILL WORSE IN SYRIA

    We write to alert you, as we did President George W. Bush, six weeks before the attack on Iraq, that the consequences of limiting your circle of advisers to a small, relatively inexperienced coterie with a dubious record for wisdom can prove disastrous.* Our concern this time regards Syria.

    We are hoping that your President’s Daily Brief tomorrow will give appropriate attention to Saturday’s warning by Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova: “If the US launches a direct aggression against Damascus and the Syrian Army, it would cause a terrible, tectonic shift not only in the country, but in the entire region.”

    Speaking on Russian TV, she warned of those whose “logic is ‘why do we need diplomacy’ … when there is power … and methods of resolving a problem by power. We already know this logic; there is nothing new about it. It usually ends with one thing – full-scale war.”

    We are also hoping that this is not the first you have heard of this – no doubt officially approved – statement. If on Sundays you rely on the “mainstream” press, you may well have missed it.

    In the Washington Post, an abridged report of Zakharova’s remarks (nothing about “full-scale war”) was buried in the last paragraph of an 11-paragraph article titled “Hospital in Aleppo is hit again by bombs.” Sunday’s New York Times totally ignored the Foreign Ministry spokesperson’s statements.

    In our view, it would be a huge mistake to allow your national security advisers to follow the example of the Post and Times in minimizing the importance of Zakharova’s remarks.

    Events over the past several weeks have led Russian officials to distrust Secretary of State John Kerry. Indeed, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who parses his words carefully, has publicly expressed that distrust.

    Some Russian officials suspect that Kerry has been playing a double game; others believe that, however much he may strive for progress through diplomacy, he cannot deliver on his commitments because the Pentagon undercuts him every time. We believe that this lack of trust is a challenge that must be overcome and that, at this point, only you can accomplish this.

    It should not be attributed to paranoia on the Russians’ part that they suspect the Sept. 17 U.S. and Australian air attacks on Syrian army troops that killed 62 and wounded 100 was no “mistake,” but rather a deliberate attempt to scuttle the partial cease-fire Kerry and Lavrov had agreed on – with your approval and that of President Putin – that took effect just five days earlier.

    In public remarks bordering on the insubordinate, senior Pentagon officials showed unusually open skepticism regarding key aspects of the Kerry-Lavrov deal. We can assume that what Lavrov has told his boss in private is close to his uncharacteristically blunt words on Russian NTV on Sept. 26:

    “My good friend John Kerry … is under fierce criticism from the US military machine. Despite the fact that, as always, [they] made assurances that the US Commander in Chief, President Barack Obama, supported him in his contacts with Russia (he confirmed that during his meeting with President Vladimir Putin), apparently the military does not really listen to the Commander in Chief.”


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    Yes defuse tensions by slapping down that tinpot dictator Vlad and putin' him in his place.
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So...Obama should oust yet another foreign leader of a sovereign country?
     
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    Gazis (global socialist), "citizens of the world", like The Obama, hate "Americans" and "Russians" because their nationalism stands in the way of their global rule. They are pushing the 2 nations to destroy eachother, so their cultures can be erased and replaced with Gazi-ism.
     
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    What is "consortiumnews" and who are the "Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity"?

    So they're first "call" was that they were concerned Saddam would use his "WMD's" on our troops if we invaded, in 03. Check

    Second was an imminent invasion of Israel into Iran in 2010. Check

    We should really listen to these guys, I'm super concerned


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    Perhaps if you paid more attention you'd have noticed that they all have names and vast experience in the field. They're knowledgeable. Only fools don't pay attention to what intelligent and experienced men have to say.
     
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    More insanity. You slap around non nuclear powers, who do not have the ability to take you and your family out in one big flash. This is irresponsible talk and dangerous. Testosterone?
     
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    Nothing to do with socialism. This is vampire capitalism, where maxing out profits drives foreign policy. Capitalists are driving this truck, not socialists. Unless you think MNCs and the banking cabal cartel are socialists.
     
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    signed by:

    Fred Costello, Former Russian Linguist, USAF

    Edward Loomis, NSA, Cryptologic Computer Scientist (ret.)

    Coleen Rowley, Division Counsel & Special Agent, FBI (ret.)




    these people are a bunch of nobody's.
     
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    Always listen to retired professionals, since they're the only who aren't fearful of losing their jobs when speaking the truth.

    Of course if you like war, then that's a different story. I gather you don't have children?
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    Trump's VP has threatened to attack Syria
     
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    No Ronstar, the nobodies are the idiots in Washington who are bringing us to the brink of WWIII. But then again if you like chaos, wars and destruction, then that's a different story? I gather you don't have children either?


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    nice meme, here's one of my own

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    Sorry, my sarcastic mode doesn't seem to be operating properly. That was a reference to what Pence had to say about Putin in the debate.
     
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    Well they're obviously much smarter than the current ruling bunch of somebodys in the WH and the Pentagon.
     
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    what do you think "corporate welfare" is all about? Socialist, or "command/control" drones use the government to grant themselves gifts at the corporations expense. The highest bidder in PAY to PLAY gets a "pass".
     
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    There is a difference, in that your image is meant to deceive and manipulate the American people so they will go to war with Russia, while my image is based on reality.

     
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    BO peep.....says "what", what did you say?



    U.S. accuses Russia of cyberattacks ‘intended to interfere’ with election.....

    The Obama administration today publicly accused the Russian government of cyberattacks against U.S. political organizations and prominent figures that are “intended to interfere with the U.S. election process.”

    The extraordinary move comes after months of disclosures stemming from the hacks of the Democratic National Committee and other groups — cyberattacks that the U.S. intelligence community is now “confident” were directed by the Russian government.....snip~

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...cyberattacks-intended-interfere-election.html

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    In the distant '60s, shortly after the Cuban missile crisis, Stanley Kubrick withdrew the film masterpiece with the speaker called "Dr. Strangelove, or how I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb". Now, when the two nuclear superpowers, Russia and the United States again face each other in suspense, let's talk about the bomb and the fear.

    Russian is absolutely not afraid of nuclear war.
    Russian genetically absorbed: west will not leave alone Russian. "expensive Western partners" always ready to start a revolution, unleashed aggressive madman - for example Hitler, will prepare plans for nuclear destruction, to buy traitors in the elite and terrorists feed. The result is always the same - collapse, poverty, terror.
    Three catastrophes of the twentieth century - 1917, 1941 and 1991 - is not that enough to at least learn something? The lesson is simple - we are treated as a threat and, at the same time, as a prey. In this situation, agreement are not working.

    "Ally" Churchill even before the victory over the Reich, seriously considered the possibility of attack on the Soviet Union - a plan "Unthinkable." At the end of 1945 there was a plan of US nuclear attack on the USSR "Totality", then "Fleetwood", in 1949 - the plan "Dropshot". All these plans were united by the idea of applying a massive nuclear attack on the Russian cities - the cities of the state at that time has no nuclear weapons.

    Then - Glory to Stalin, Beria and Kurchatov - atomic and hydrogen bomb appeared in Russian. And after the Russian Sputnik launch - the expectation of a nuclear war has become a double-edged mainstream.

    Our 'transatlantic partners ", no secret that are going to blow up our 150 cities and occupy the radioactive ruins ...

    How in such a situation decade "to be afraid"? When the war is perceived as inevitable, are included Russian fighting qualities - contempt for death, willingness to conquer difficulties, neglect of the hardships and the long, hard will crush the enemy at any cost.
    West, in the form in which we know it the last three hundred years - our ontological opponent. On the same planet with these hypocritical cannibals us live not peacefully. And this understands every Russian. It is not that "Russian ready to attack first" - no. But! "We are no longer afraid and Love the Bomb" because defeat is worse than death - and we have now, thank God, - a sure way to "tie." Whatever it was, we - not to lose, because no one will be celebrating a victory over us. This alone gives confidence.

    The Russian people has even restrained mockery towards the coming "post-nuclear competition for survival" - "we are accustomed," but you, dear "the opposing team," sure will be worse than to us.

    In addition, we do not even need to win a nuclear war. We humans are modest, we agree to a draw.

    The more that we will win - a guarantee - it Moscow area of missile defense, and cyclopean size storage the State Reserve, Stalinist dungeon Urals.
    Our ancestors twice rebuilt half of the continent - that we can not rebuild the continent?
    We even save from oblivion English. For medicine used for centuries dead Latin, why to us will not be used to IT- scope, of the dead, but comfortable English?

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    Yes, it's funny how they all suddenly spill the beans after they retire - and in our case when they've got their gongs and fancy ermine-trimmed outfits.
     
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    'Chalk and cheese' aren't they.
     
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    Chalk fades away, and It appears that Putin is the cheddar. :grin:
     
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    This whole "cyber-attack" diatribe is quite nonsensical.

    NSA contractor charged with stealing secret data

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cybersecurity-arrest-idUSKCN12520Y

    And just what does the US Gov't use these secret hacking tools to do ? Hack Russia and China !

    Never mind our enemies. They are also hacking (spying on) our allies.

    Clowns calling out Clowns for being Clowns.
     
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    Not really and not when people are caught giving up breaches to Foreign countries.



    With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account......snip~

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system
     

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