Israeli archaeologist denies Jewish ties to Al-Aqsa Mosque

Lighten up Alexa, all in good fun

 

It is you expressing your views in what you believe is a fun way. It is never humour to dehumanise people. The Nazis used cartoons a lot to illustrate why Jews should be hated. Guess they thought it was humour too.

 

How exactly did he dehumanize anybody?

 

If you can defend the ridicouls claim there never was a Temple mount - you can deal with facts like there never was a ppl called "Palestinians".

 

Rejecting Jewish ties to the Holy city of Jerusalem and Temple mount - was done in good faith ? the Palestinians wage war on us and they lie and dehumenize us all the time so its funny you come up with the Nazis to prove a point that by itself is just another propaganda against Israel, to suggest we are the Nazis today and the Palestinians are Jews.

let's review the Palestinian narrative that you follow and see who demonizes who :

1) Jews are are not the Jews of old (Europeans/Kazars) - so have no claim to the land
2) Zionism is racism
3) Zionists plotted the wars against the Arabs never wanting peace
4) We starve, kill, harvest organs, rape etc' etc'
5) lately - Judaism itself is a lie because there never was a Temple mount

There are more but to prove my point its enough, there is no compare between our "dehuminizing" and the Palestinian "dehuminizing" and in this thread makes a good example, after your side claimed as "archeological fact" there never was a Temple - a poster said as archeological fact there never were Palestinains, now he's a Nazi

BTW, who's the Nazis in Syria or is that term reserved just for Israel and Palestinians as victims ?

 

Good morning Gilos!! Tbh I am way too busy at the moment to have paid much attention to this thread apart from noticing it both in my interest of world affairs and personal life. However I notice that you believe that what happened at UNESCO was a denial of Jewish ties to Jerusalem and the Temple Mount and that such is an excuse to dehumanise Palestinians. I am sorry that is your point of view. I do not believe in dehumanising any human beings but we all differ.

Now while I think what you say above might be true concerning the archaeological studies I left a video of earlier for the time of King David it most certainly is not the case here. What is happening here is the deliberate arousal of the antisemetic card to hide what the resolution was really about.

That is the most important point and one which appears to have missed you, possibly living in Israel and being subject to the propaganda. However lets go on.

Notice any denial of Jews there? No I think not. As a quote in my previous post said, Israel has found a new definition of antisemitism - not mentioning Jews. Lets continue

This is what the resolution is about and what I said in my previous post leaving a link to it and also an article indicating how much the take over had already gone a year ago before the worse damage they are complaining about.

But of course Netanyahu could not manage anything as simple as honesty. We all remember how Muslims caused the holocaust! So instead he starts on the usual antisemitism myth to get everyone so angry they do not know what is being spoken about. Wow that antisemitism card must be a big winner.

but unfortunately for Netanyahu as I have already said and left the link for anyone to read

Beginning to see how you have been conned yet? I get well angry when I discover my own government has been deceiving me.

Lets just say again what the resolution was really about

http://972mag.com/lets-talk-about-what-unesco-resolution-does-say-instead-of-what-it-doesnt/122629/

Here is a link to how bad the damage was before the worse damage which has been done since.

Israel’s encirclement of al-Aqsa ‘nearly complete’

Now that is what the resolution was on.

 

Best go to spec savers.

 

Oh, Gilos what are you accusing me of defending now. Where is the claim that there never was a temple mount and where am I defending it. All in your dreams Gilos. Just like your own dehumanisation of Palestinians and your intent to make them never have existed.

 

If rejecting historical links is dehumenizing than you are guilty of it too by supporting this vote, if it's not that none is guilty.

Dont play naive with me and dont hide behind words, "Al-Aqṣa Mosque/Al-Ḥaram Al-Sharif and its surroundings" are the Temple Mount and the West wall, by NOT addressing them by name means that entity sees it as Muslim sites and that's all, going in the West wall tunnels is a war crime possibly even genocide according to your brain washed agenda, the Mufti can dig down as he did before and break what he wants within the Mount according to this nonesense.

Im not fooled by my Gov or by UNESCO, I see it for what it is, not by mistake the votes were mainly from Arab states and other anti western, so we all reject it and the UN once again proved useless, in fact I think it even harmed the situation because now Israelis will have the need to establish thier own dominance there something we seculars never cared for or thought about.

 

The Palestinians you talk about exist only in the UK or in your head, I dont know, but your kind wants peace, never hurts a soul, tolerant toward other cultures and religions, the ones I talk about exist here right next to me in Gaza and the WB and are very diffrent from teh European kind evidently.

 

No Gilos. They are the real human beings who your people have been killing and expelling since 48 in order to take over their land. As you do you destroy any evidence that they existed. One day you will pay. I can wait.

 

Now you cut my replies to say things I didnt, is this kind of dehumansing your liberal socialist promotes ? expelling, killing, stealing, destroy, and for a sweet ending a threat. why not a traditional Allah hu akbar ?

 

Bibi said he belives in a Palestinian state - want to discuss the A's and B's on that topic or is that too just as it appears ?

Either you play ball or you dont Alexa, dont float around here with your white robes chanting harmony and peace when you side with terrorists and racists, you picked a side good for you but you do not have the objective pedestal to judge anyone.

 

Terrorists, missile lobbers, suicide-vest wearers, bus blowers, back stabbers but otherwise all around nice people, cheering every attack on the Western way of life. Tell me again why I should not despise them and not make fun of them?

 

Funny. The last time i checked it was the Jews who accepted the 1947 partition resolution while the arabs rejected it and started a war to exterminate the Jews.
It is Hamas charter who calls for murder of all the Jews even as we speak

 

any so-called "archeaologist" that claims there was no 2nd Temple at the Temple Mount and there is no Jewish connection to Jerusalem or the Western Wall, is a liar.

 

Agreed.

Absolutely.

Truth.

Sad, but true.

 

and what about the MILLIONS of Jews who are not of Ashkenazi descent, hmmm????????

ah, so you are a denier of history.

all historians of any significance know that Jerusalem was built by the Israelites, rebuilt by Herod, and the Temple Mount is where the 2nd Temple stood.

any so-called historian or archaeologist who denies this, is a liar and a fraud.

the Director of UNESCO made it very clear, the links between the Jews and Jerusalem, the Temple Mount, and the Western Wall.

 

Jerusalem and the Wailing Wall are holy to Islam, due to the following impossible and silly story:

"From various hadith we learn much greater detail. The Isra is the part of the journey of Muhammad from Mecca to Jerusalem. It began when Muhammad was in the Masjid al-Haram, and the archangel Gabriel (Jibrīl or Jibrāʾīl) came to him, and brought Buraq, the traditional heavenly steed of the prophets. Buraq carried Muhammad to the Masjid Al Aqsa, the "Farthest Mosque", in Jerusalem. Muhammad alighted, tethered Buraq to the Temple Mount and performed prayer, where on God's command he was tested by Gabriel.[6][7] It was told by Anas ibn Malik that Muhammad said: "Jibra'il brought me a vessel of wine, a vessel of water and a vessel of milk, and I chose the milk. Jibra'il said: 'You have chosen the Fitrah (natural instinct).'" In the second part of the journey, the Mi'raj (an Arabic word that literally means "ladder"[8]), Buraq took him to the heavens, where he toured the seven stages of heaven, and spoke with the earlier prophets such as Abraham (ʾIbrāhīm), Moses (Musa), John the Baptist (Yaḥyā ibn Zakarīy&#257, and Jesus (Isa). Muhammad was then taken to Sidrat al-Muntaha – a holy tree in the seventh heaven that Gabriel was not allowed to pass. According to Islamic tradition, God instructed Muhammad that Muslims must pray fifty times per day; however, Moses told Muhammad that it was very difficult for the people and urged Muhammad to ask for a reduction, until finally it was reduced to five times per day"



compared to the fact that Jerusalem was the capital of the Jewish Kingdoms for hundreds of years, and the center of Jewish religious life, Its easy to see that Jerusalem is more holier for the Jews than the Muslims.

remember, Muhammed rode his magic donkey to Jerusalem and the Temple Mount, which was built 600 years before Muhammed was born, by King Herod of Judaea.

 

Yeah, sad indeed.

 

^^^^^^ the truth about Islam and Jerusalem.


btw, the Al Aqsa Mosque did not exist when Muhammed was alive.

so the "Furthest Mosque", may not have even been in Jerusalem.

 

Wow! Another great post, alexa. I respect your views as you have obviously done your own research into the matters you post on.

You bring up anti-Semitism as a card played. Can you distinguish between actual anti-Semitism and the false charges of it for us? I mean, in your opinion, is there actually people who for no reason simply hate Jews and are dangerous to the Jewish people or is the hatred we see based on their behavior? I have a tough time finding people who for no reason simply and baselessly hate Jews, beyond a minute and harmless percentage of inbred simpletons, who may be actual neonazis or folks trying to keep the dead KKK alive and hold no power. Is that fair?

 

most folks who hate Jews do so for irrational, illogical, and ignorant reasons.

and even if one takes into account a hundred or so bad Jews, such as the Rosenbergs, Bernie Madoff, and some NKVD dudes, that doesn't justify hatred of 14 millions people!!!!!!

that's called "guilt by association", and it is disgusting bigotry.

should all Muslims be hated due to Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein?

by their logic, ALL Muslims should be hated due to the hundreds of horrible terrorist attacks that happen against civilians across the globe every year.

 

????? Its a retaining wall. Not a fortress wall.

 

Colonising, detention without trial, stealing resources, increasing taking of land, can't remember the % of settler violences against Palestinians which are acted on but it is real low something like 4 in 700 and of course if you come to the killing that done to Palestinians by Israelis is thousands more. No your dehumanisation comes from somewhere other than the Palestinians actions. Oh and lets not forget what this thread is about. The taking over of the Temple Mount. Dehumanisation is known to be a trait of those who wish to act towards others in an inhuman way - it is the prerequisite to doing it.