Finally! WikiLeaks Releases Details of Exactly how Hillary is STEALING THE ELECTION!

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    illegals in California are given a different drivers license, and different application, which doesn't register them to vote.
     
  2. toddwv

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    Yes. As long as they are entitled to vote.

    So to be clear for those who don't seem to understand: Drivers license does not equal registered to vote.
     
  3. toddwv

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    You keep repeating this lie. I realize that right-wingers aren't capable of independent thought, but this is ridiculous.

    Just because you get a drivers license doesn't mean you are registered to vote. You have to actually be entitled to vote in order for the voter registration goes through.
     
  4. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a response that is incredibly ignorant of American history. Just ask blacks in the South before the ERA about "poll tests" and other Jim Crow era ways that were used to disenfranchise voters.
     
  5. toddwv

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    Yeah, great idea. The KKK used political tests in the deep South to keep blacks from voting.

    Stack the deck? Correct me if I'm wrong but the Republicans control both the Senate and the House, right? Not only that, the Republicans have an advantage in both House elections as well as gaining the Senate majority since every state, including the ones with populations wouldn't make a medium-sized city. In addition, the House elections have been so gerrymandered that Democrats could win the popular vote and still not win the House.

    Is the deck stacked? Yes...decidedly in the GOP's favor.

     
  6. toddwv

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    It's been a right-wing gish gallop for the last week+. They're getting so desperate and frustrated that they refuse to listen to reason of any sort and choose to exist solely on the pablum fed to them by their lying media.
     
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    I guess it's probably not true, the only RWers in here saying it's true are proven to have zero credibility. Pinochio had more credibility.
     
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    Obama, Hillary, the Democrat establishment and really loony leftist like Gov. Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown see it differently.

    Now many liberals claim as soon as an illegal alien steps across the border they become Americans.

    Now just don't pay attention what this loony liberal is saying but notice how liberals just can't comprehend the U.S. Flag Code. -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8p5oScKsBM

     
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    Are you accusing me being another Obama or Hillary who practices Alinskyism ? "Keep repeating the lie over and over and eventually the Democrats will start believing the lie."

    It worked for Obama in 2008, will it work for Hillary in 2016 ?
     
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    It's a different era: People are much more able to inform themselves if they want so today. How many people even knew how to read in the Jim Crow days?

    Anyway, and even in these days, an ignorant vote isn't a desirable thing IMO - unless a party actually capitalize on it.
     
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    The same way a person caught up in a cult does. They are completely incapable of thinking for themselves. They are taught what to think not to think for themselves, otherwise you cant support Hillary. Your brain would prevent you from supporting a felon if it was working correctly.
     
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    Don't even need to frame this in terms of Dems or GOP.

    One simple yes/no question: Was Bernie Sanders provided a fair shot at the Democratic nomination? There it is, stacked deck, plain and simple...

    (By the way, have you seen this video? Care to comment?)
     
  13. AlphaOmega

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    good god, its not open to debate, go to the mass.gov website and research it yourself. You wont though because you don't want to see the truth. I even posted the register online link for MA.
    You don't believe it because you refuse to accept reality thus proving the cult like mentality of a Hillary supporter. Its why we often use kool aid when when referring to you guys, its a perfect illustration.
     
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    This is the critical question that will be answered in a couple of weeks. Unfortunately, with the rigged storyline pushed by the mainstream media, it looks as though it will work once again for Hillary. But it won't work in secret...
     
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    I didn't excuse anything. It's you Trump supporters that are excusing it since you're willing to vote for a man who's engaged in many of the same overall types of behavior. I'm not voting for either Trump or Clinton(since they are largely the same) so my credibility and integrity will remain intact and a hypocrite I shall not be.

    Will you folks be able to say the same? Are you prepared for being unable to criticize political corruption and dishonesty after pulling the lever for Trump? Because you will be. Unable that is. Since you directly voted for it.
     
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    Trump has no record of breaking the law and nor is he particularly dishonest in comparison to either Obama or Hillary. I don't LIKE Trump. I voted for Cruz; but rather than make a meaningless symbolic gesture and flush my vote down the toilet in a 'feel good' moment I will hold my nose and vote for Trump, if for no other reason than the fact that he will have one supreme court pick and perhaps as many as two others. We cannot afford more leftist activist supreme court judges. The fact that the Left very obviously has got something on Chief Justice Roberts -- to make him occasionally support an unconstitutional leftist ruling -- is bad enough; but to deliberately allow more leftist judges to be on that court? NEVER!
     
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    I'm not a Democrat and Clinton is not my candidate. I don't support her. I won't be voting for her. So the only remaining Trump campaign tactic and defense that you have, which is "But what about Hillary", is not going to work for me. You're the one voting for the exact same type of person you're simultaneously complaining and criticizing other folks for voting for. You're the one who has apparently decided the best way to protest politics you don't like is by voting for the exact same type of politician as the politics you don't like. Essentially you're trying to fight a housefire with a flamethrower, and some part of you knows it perfectly well and is trying to distract others from noticing by pointing to Clinton. Well, that's all the Trump campaign is, pointing at Clinton.

    Those of us standing on the outside watching you folks fight over two identical types of people are wondering what mental obstacle course you had to jump through to convince yourself to vote for the same essential person that you spend a majority of your forum time criticizing.

    I know I know. I'll save you the time of a reply and just type what you were going to type, because I'm charitable like that. You're welcome.



    "But what about Hillary"
     
  18. Junkieturtle

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    He has the same record of breaking the law that Clinton does, in that he has not been formally charged with things but the evidence is mostly there. He has the same, if not worse, record of being totally dishonest as Hillary does. To this day he still pretends he hasn't said things, things that it has been documented that he has said and done.

    You're voting for the same person. You're smart enough to know it too, but your dislike of Clinton is stronger than the value you place on integrity and credibility.
     
  19. Gatewood

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    Oh . . . my . . . God. Hillary Clinton has broken so many and so many major laws that she needs to spend the rest of her life in prison orange and the lies she told are HUGE, nation changing lies. Holy crap!
     
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    You cannot even depend upon so called conservatives here in congress or even as president. For they are guilty too. They are for open borders free trade for the robber barons too. Trump is not one of these people. He is probably the only real conservative, or closer to one than anyone else in DC.

    The only way to take on this corruption is by an outsider, like trump. This is why the establishment GOP is not behind him, not going to bat for him. And this is why the establishment democratic party rigged any chance sander had to beat Clinton to be out of the question. This election is a fight to take back the gov't from the robber barons, make no mistake about that. And politicians can only serve the robber barons and not serve the People by being corrupt, by being criminals. Yet the democrats seem to be worse than the GOP. Until wilkileaks speaks truth to power and we find out the truth. The Press is supposed to speak truth to power but now we know via wilkileaks that they are not the press, but are just as corrupt as the democratic party and Clinton. We are in a mess, the republic is dead, and Hillary supporters do not want it back, they just want their tribe to win. They have accused people who thought this crap was going on as wearing tinfoil hats. But now we now that it is these Hillary supporters who are wearing the tinfoil hats.

    I supported sanders. I sent him money regularly. I worked for him during the primaries. But if it was revealed what has been revealed on Clinton and the DNC who was rigging it for him, I would kick the bastard to the curb out of nothing but principles. Yet her supporters will not do that and are trying to defend her. By denial, by ignorance, or by trying to show trump is worse. LOL It is impossible for anyone to be worse than Clinton, especially a man never holding office. An outsider.
     
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    Holy moly look at this post. Trump tries to steal a few kisses and he's a bit of a perv, perhaps ran roughshod over some people in business too but breaking laws? Hillary no one even denies created private email servers, put National Security at risk, lied to Congresses face, covered it up or tried too and used administrative pressure on the FBI to avoid charges... I mean WOW dood being an unsavory jerk doesn't make Trump a law breaker, Hillary is both

    When Trump gets elected and appoints a special prosecutor they are all going down
     
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    You can reference all the crackpot sites that you want. It doesn't change the fact that in order to be registered as a voter in CA, you have to eligible to be registered as a voter in CA.
     
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    No, I was thinking of the right-wing's favorite Hitlerism:

    It's an effective propaganda technique and the right-wing deploys it with mind-numbing efficiency through a variety of surrogates who happily parrot whatever they are told over and over and over and over and over again. Just pull their string...
     
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    The problem is that actual political intelligence doesn't become the measure; the race of the individual being tested. The poll questions are the same for everyone, the correct answers are subject to change according to the individual's race. This is the US. I'd prefer we not set up a "banana republic" which disallows some segments of the population from voting. It would be better if more people would vote in order to iron out the extremists than if just the extremists choose to vote.
     
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    Considering he wasn't, and now isn't again, a Democratic Party member? Well, yes. He had a pretty good shot at the Democratic nomination and in fact had a positive effect on the party as a whole.
     

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