Wikileaks BOMBSHELL Exposes Extent Of Clinton Corruption

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  1. Horhey

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    The Clinton Foundation was used as a for-profit "pay to play" front for corporate "access" to then "Madame Secretary" Killary in 2011.

    May we descend into low level comedy:

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    The obvious question posed by The Intercept:

    I would add that it shouldn't take a jaded disposition to doubt that a Clinton-run charity is about charitable work in the first place.
     
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    It is well-established that the Clinton Foundation does good charitable work. Only conspiracy theorists on the right say otherwise. The pay-for-play controversy is a matter of perspective. Personally, I applaud pay-for-play as a way to generate money for charity, provided that it doesn't also conflict with American interests, as Trump's business interests would.
     
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    Schweizer's Clinton Cash documents a lot of pay to play. I am about half way through it, so far his sources back him up.
     
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    For the Clinton's. They have gone from so broke they were stealing the WH furniture to richer than the Romney's in just 16 years with this crooked charity scam.

    Current DOJ Overseer of Hillary Email Investigation... Was Feeding Hillary Campaign "Heads Ups" About Email Investigation While a Justice Department Employee

    We need a Grand Jury. Where Felonies were committed their needs to be an accounting and where the average person would go Prison, those in this scandal need to go to prison.
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    Kadzik provides a very helpful "heads up" about Hillary's email server investigation. This is what Kadzik emailed to John Podesta (via gmail) on May 19, 2015:
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    There is a HJC oversight hearing today where the head of our Civil Division will testify. Likely to get questions on State Department emails. Another filing in the FOIA case went in last night or will go in this am that indicates it will be awhile (2016) before the State Department posts the emails.
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    As we also reported previously (see below), prior to joining the DOJ, Kadzik was the attorney of Marc Rich, whose records the FBI released yesterday, as well as Podesta; in faat, the Clinton campaign chairman infamously wrote that Kadzik was a "fantastic lawyer" who "kept me out of jail."
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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ampaign-and-doj-kadzik-provides-heads-podesta

    The Clinton Crime Syndicate has a very highly place mole, in charge of the investigation, of the Clintons.
     
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    The money that goes to their charity does not go into the pocket of the Clintons. They have, however, had many highly-paid speaking engagements from which they became wealthy. This is known through their tax returns. And they were in demand as highly paid speakers because of the fact that he was a president and she was a secretary of state. Bush Jr also was highly paid for speaking, but gave much fewer than the Clintons.
     
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    Yeah. Most Charities, like the Gates Foundation or the Ford Foundation exist so they can give their money away to causes. The Clinton Foundation exists so that folks all over the world can give money to the Clintons.
     
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    The Clinton's pulled down $57.5 million during the four years Hillary Clinton served as Secretary of State by plying their connections to power and monied interests, via her public office.
    [video=youtube;vppk3R6eDuU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vppk3R6eDuU[/video]

    The Clinton's acquired their wealth while in the public sector. The Clintons had been in federal office continuously from January 1992 to February 2013, a period of twenty-one years, while they amassed a nine-figure net worth. Their speeches and especially Bill’s consultancy income derived almost entirely from Hillary’s status as a Senator, Secretary of State and future President. Those that wanted access and the ear of those in high office were provided multiple avenues by which they could fill the Clinton's pockets with millions and millions and millions of dollars and some of the world's most unsavory have filled their pockets with millions. Laureate Education for an $18 million example, Bill was paid eight figures to be an honorary chancellor.

    [video=youtube;b6uiVuGspWE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6uiVuGspWE&feature=youtu.be[/video]

    Now it's up to US!
     
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    Word on the street is "indictment is likely."
     
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    After hammering Donald Trump on the campaign trail for refusing to reveal his tax returns, Hillary Clinton released her latest federal income tax return Friday, showing she and Bill paid roughly a third of their multi-million dollar income to Uncle Sam
    http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/12/pf/taxes/hillary-clinton-tax-return/

    It is better to have a money trail or something
    and some verifiable documents to support.
     
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    Not true. The money goes directly to work on the causes. The program directly does the charitable work rather than pay other programs to do it.
     
  13. Zorro

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    I'm not here to burst you bubble on the complete corruption of the Grifter Clintons. If you want to believe that this is all great Charitable Work and that the Clinton's just happened to go from so broke they were stealing the WH furniture when they left to Richer than the Romneys with a substantial, soldi 9 figure Net Worth, because lots of rich folks just like to give them millions of dollar with no strings attached, well, that is your right as a Free-Thinking American.

    I may not agree with what you believe, but I support with all my heart and strength, your right to believe it!

    If you want to believe that Hillary does a bang up job ensuring our National Secrets are Secure, why, you just believe your little heart out!
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    On the surface yes, but the reality is different. Take the funds collected for the Haiti earthquake for example.

    "The Clintons also funneled $10 million in federal loans to a firm called InnoVida, headed by Clinton donor Claudio Osorio. Osorio had loaded its board with Clinton cronies, including longtime Clinton ally General Wesley Clark; Hillary’s 2008 finance director Jonathan Mantz; and Democratic fundraiser Chris Korge who has helped raise millions for the Clintons. Normally the loan approval process takes months or even years. But in this case, a government official wrote, “Former President Bill Clinton is personally in contact with the company to organize its logistical and support needs. And as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton has made available State Department resources to assist with logistical arrangements.” InnoVida had not even provided an independently audited financial report that is normally a requirement for such applications. This requirement, however, was waived. On the basis of the Clinton connection, InnoVida’s application was fast-tracked and approved in two weeks. The company, however, defaulted on the loan and never built any houses. An investigation revealed that Osorio had diverted company funds to pay for his Miami Beach mansion, his Maserati, and his Colorado ski chalet. He pleaded guilty to wire fraud and money laundering in 2013, and is currently serving a twelve-year prison term on fraud charges related to the loan. Several Clinton cronies showed up with Bill to a 2011 Housing Expo that cost more than $2 million to stage. Bill Clinton said it would be a model for the construction of thousands of homes in Haiti. In reality, no homes have been built. A few dozen model units were constructed but even they have not been sold. Rather, they are now abandoned and have been taken over by squatters."


    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437883/hillarys-america-secret-history-democratic-party-dinesh-dsouza-clinton-foundation
     
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    The Clintons are professional criminals and always have been. Their corruption runs much, much deeper than just taking bribes through their slush fund. Bill is in all likelihood a serial rapist and Hillary Clinton has been his accomplice in everything. The only reason anyone knows who Hillary Clinton is is because she's been riding her husband's coattails and rolling around in the gutter with him. Their supporters are akin to cult members who will never accept the reality of their epic criminality and corruption.
     
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    Well in our forum world of total bias this argument works but the FBI turns out has been investigating the Clinton Foundation for pay to play as in when she was Secretary of State for the United States of America for over a year completely separate from other investigations.

    My point being that it's not going to be so linear as people and countries donating and the Clintons pocketing it. It will have buffers. EX: X donates Y to Clinton Foundation then Z ( Hillary ) would grant access or make decisions benefiting those entities... In return those entities don't have to do something directly for the Clintons but let's say a close friend.. Then that friend does A,B,C for the Clintons.

    It falls under racketeering famously known as the RICO ACT

    The DOJ kinda had this under control until until these Wiki Leaks and FBI agents with integrity were very frustrated with their interference when I say they I mean specifically Loretta Lynch and Kadzik but now with the new wiki leaks it's snowballing and it's going to be an avalanche soon... Loretta Lynch and others in the DOJ better watch out, the FBI is fractured on this and some good agents are pushing back hard on them. If this goes bad the DOJ officials could get corruption and interfering with a federal investigation charges later

    Guaranteed if Trump wins

    So let's not be naive about what's on her tax records
     
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    Even if it is as you describe, at the end of the day it's the charity getting millions, and the charity doing charitable work. So unless it can be demonstrated that said process caused her to go against the interests of the United States, it's not a net negative thing. It's insane to cry about "corruption" leading to charitable work.
     
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    Rubbish. Nonsense. They used a charity organization as a cover. Which the investigation will eventually show. Would not be the first time a cover was used to enrich people like the Clintons. They got donations from people who could have donated to other charities, but these elites chose this foundation in order to get a return on their investment, not because they give a hoot about charities. Pay to play. RICO.

    Remember this post when the FBI has the goods and want to indict.
     
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    And I'm saying I don't care if that's the case assuming two things:

    1. The charity does charitable work, and the money given to it goes towards this minus reasonable administration costs.
    2. The favors given to people who donate to the charity do not harm the United States.

    If those two are true, nobody should care. I don't care if they care about charity or not, I care about results.
     
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    Thankfully what you care about doesn't matter. You just stated you don't care if the Secretary of State of the United States of America engages in illegal pay to play activities as long as the United States itself isn't hurt.
    I reread it twice to be sure.

    Of course it hurts the United States if foreign and domestic power players know if they donate to a sitting SOS's Foundation they will get preferential treatment by her. It compromises the integrity of the entire office

    Just.. Stop. Good news it's going to get much worse.
     
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    Hitler and Al Capone did good charitable work
     
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    None of the charitable foundations were formed out of noble causes. They exist to keep the federal government from grabbing a person's fortune after they die. It's a means of avoiding inheritance taxes, that way they can ensure the prosperity of their descendants by putting them in charge of the foundation.

    Chelsea Clinton makes about 1 million a year. I don't know much about it, but I'm going to assume that any profits from investments by a foundation is probably tax free and Chelsea's income will grow accordingly. But I'm guessing in all this because I really don't know that much about them and how they work. What I do know is that even though a foundation does some good works, it is not the reason they exist.

    As for Hillary, she was selling government benefits for donations to her foundation ...and that is criminal. This is why she had a private server and wasn't using the State one. She wanted to hide her double dealings, which was putting the security and welfare of her country at risk... not to mention aiding the genocides being committed by the countries who are supporting her charity.

    What we do know is that Huma Hillary's closest adviser is a Saudi agent. If she wasn't she wouldn't have broken the law by having the State Department information in her apartment so that her Saudi connected mother and brother could see it.
     
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    Yeah, your response is one of the many attitudes that mess up the world. Illegal therefore wrong is a fallacious line of thought. Results are all that matter. That's above all true when talking about foreign affairs. To make this more concrete for you: It doesn't matter if Saddam was a jerk or not, or "illegally" had weapons of mass destruction or not, or killed "his own people" or not, what matters is we didn't make it better by deposing him. If Clinton actually harmed the United States in these dealings, and not something as nebulous as "integrity," then she should go to jail and the law is simply a tool to that end. If she didn't, then we should just acknowledge this for what it has been so far: Republicans looking for a defect in the armor to stick their knife.
     
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    Except for the fact that charity isn't going to make up for millions or even dozens of murders, or however many Capone ordered. And I have not heard of any horrible results for America in terms of the play part of "pay for play" so far. And we know the pay part was positive. So given the information I have, even if it's pay-for-play, it's a good thing.
     

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