Can anyone object to a world pace Amendment to Constitution?

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  1. Ted

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    When Jefferson said our Revolution was the shot heard around the world he had no idea liberals would undermine the message. Accordingly a world peace and prosperity Amendment to recognize that world peace and prosperity can only be obtained if the world adopts America's superior values should be adopted and thus require America to peacefully spread its Republican family, religious, social, and economic values.

    There is no other way to world peace-right?
     
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    Is this sarcasm? Lol
     
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    if you disagree please try to say why
     
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    Disagree with what?
     
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    This is to funny, Hitler, Tojo, Stalin etc. all thought the same way.......:roflol:

    Possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.......and most arrogant.
     
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    "America's superior values" (superior to whom?), "peacefully spread" (like asking them politely?) and your thinking that American values are universally agreed upon even among Americans (there are arguments every day about what American values are and how they should be represented).

    On the other hand, America has in fact been "spreading" peace and democracy thru free trade. It's been a cornerstone to U.S. foreign policy that nations whose borders are more open and gain prosperity thru free trade with other open and prosperous nations are much more peaceful and will have much lower incentive to be hostile. That American "value" is in dispute due to Trump wanting to tear apart trade agreements, close our borders, and being hostile to outside groups that are viewed as potentially hostile.
     
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    can you say why ridiculous when they were all equal tyrants in the eyes of our Founders?? Isn't thinking fun?
     
  8. Ted

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    if I said they were agreed upon I will pay you $10,000. Bet??
    also, do you understand what Jefferson meant when he said" shot heard around world"?? Do you understand that to Jefferson America stood for freedom from govt ( the shot) and that it was the only value worth spreading but it has been undermined by liberalism??
     
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    Jefferson was a liberal.

    Why would anyone want to adopt halfassed backwards inbred idiocy?
     
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    Jefferson was a liberal who owned slaves. They should produce a play about him called Jefferson, invite Trump to it and ambush him from the stage like they did to Mike Pence.
     
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    I don't know where you get your misinformation from but Jefferson most likely didn't say, "shot heard around world". Not sure how you think that Jefferson stood for freedom from govt (sic). Maybe freedom from religion and freedom from tyranny but not from government. He helped create the US and was instrumental in spreading the ideas that became the architecture of our government.

    Not sure why you'd think that liberalism is undermining anything - other than the fact that you seem to have been deluded by right wing propaganda outlets. The opening line of the constitution, "We the people, in order to create a more perfect union" is liberalism in a nutshell. The core principle behind liberalism is the idea of perfecting the human condition.
     
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    Mike Pence is worse of a human being than that cad Trump.
     
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    Oddly enough, that was the core principle behind Stalinism, Maoism and the motivation of Pol Pot, among other idealistic luminaries.

    That is why I am suspicious of liberalism.
     
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    Jefferson and the Founders created a govt that was 1% the size of todays on an inflation adjusted percapita basis with a million checks and balances to paralize it becuase they beleived in freedom from govt. Do you understand your country now??

    for example, they provided for no income tax because it would have given the govt too much control over and contact with the people. Instead they provided for an excise tax that could be avoided by simply not buying the taxed items. Now do you understand your own country?
     
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    Your comparison makes no sense on a number of grounds.

    But, just let me say that our founders weren't even slightly oriented to using force (military or economic) to change the way other nations do their business.
     
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    yes thats why I said peacefully. Does the liberal care to try again?

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    but you are afraid to say which ground makes the least sense. Do you wonder why??
     
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    We're a liberal country.... Are you talking about classical liberal values?
     
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    I just finished Hitlers book and thats exactly what he said!! Good for you!!!
     
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    Jefferson and Madison founded the Republican party in 1793 to stand for exactly what modern Republcans stand for, i.,e limited govt or freedom from govt.
     
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    That worked for an agrarian society with almost no people by comparison.

    The average colony population was less than 1/2 the size of the city of Washington, DC today. And, that was concentrated in some areas, such as NYC.

    If we were a nation of 50 Wyomings we could do without as much government today, too.
     
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    1. The Democratic Republicans are not modern day GOP. That's just a silly comparison to make.
    2. Keep forgetting about Teddy Roosevelt don't you?
     
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    What exactly is trying to be said here? We go on a crusade to spread our culture around the world?
     
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    Yes a peaceful crusade for world peace which is what Jefferson thought the American Revolution would be. The problem is liberals oppose our culture so the world is losing American values. There are no George Washington's in the Middle East because of liberals. Do you understand?

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    if I made the comparison I'll pay you $10,000? Bet??
     
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    At that time, over half of European immigrants arrived as indentured servants.

    As for minorities, it has been a mere 50 years since blacks were considered to be both fully human and worthy of voting!

    And, that movement required the sacrifice of huge numbers of American lives as well as the continued sacrifice of life that came in pushing back the white supremacist movement in America.

    Even our great grandchildren won't live in an America where African Americans had been allowed to vote for half of America's existence. And, the ramifications of that do not seem likely to have worked through our American culture.

    Will Republicans of today continue working on that problem?

    My guess is no. The alt-right movement is fundamentally racists and appears to be fully backed by the incoming administration.
     
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    no idea on earth how he matters to conversation?????????? Do you???
     

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