Trump: Burn the flag, go to jail

Excuse me? Attacking me the messenger again?

Shocking...

No, I am against laws that ban flag burning or any other type of free speech whatsoever. No matter if Trump or Clinton are the ones to write the laws.

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This is what I posted earlier to have mdrobster spin and twist like hes at a dance party

For Pete's sake people, have some freaking decency to stand for something other than an R or a D!

 

Jailed? Nah.

What should happen to these delicate little flowers is put their dainty ***** on a bus to Parris Island, and fall em off that bus onto the yellow footprints.

Draft them and send them over to the ME to get a dose of reality.

 

Can folks wave a Nazi swastika flag in Germany? If not, why not?

Apparently you don't have free speech in Germany.

 

There are better avenues to express free speech. Anyone who burns a flag needs to ask themselves, why are you here in a country you hate? If there is something specific you hate about thus country protest that an not the country itself because such a protest would do nothing but provoke.

Overall I think people who burn flags in a country they are free to leave need counseling not jail time. As far as free speech goes, you cannot do anything you want to exercise your speech. Can you run around stark naked in an effort to protest animal mistreatment in the making of clothing? No.

The constitution gives you the right to use your words. The moment you go past that and start acting upon your beliefs or views you are stepping out of your protection of free speech. Burning the US flag is a gray area between speech and action.

 

Help us understand where you believe the right to burn the flag stems from?

 

Why should flag burning be any different than any other type of burning in public? Because you support the "right" to "protest"? Ask yourself this. If this were killing bald eagles, (you know, symbol of our nation), would you have the same reticence to regulate them? I assert you would. So, we don't allow folks to shoot bald eagles out of the sky, even if I were to assert it was by first amendment right to comment by doing so. You, I think, would agree to this. What, in your mind then, is the difference?

 

When you can make a new bald eagle from scratch knock yourself out.

 

I fail to see the difference except that you believe it takes longer to reproduce an eagle. From the legal perspective, why can we regulate one form of protest vice the other?

 

Well, I guess it is a step up from back when he said it should be considered treason, which is punishable by death.

 

Amherst College is a private college. If I owned it, I would make flag burning against the rules of the school. Any student who burned an American flag on campus, or who interfered with the flying of the flag at the school's flagpole, would be dropped from all classes and trespassed from the grounds. My house, my rules. Don't like 'em, don't enroll.

People who burn our flag are disgusting. If you want to smear your own feces on your face and scream, "Look at me!", then go ahead, disgusting little creature.

People who burn our flag are hypocrites.

People who burn our flag have a right to live in America, but they don't deserve it.

If I were an employer, and I knew that an applicant for a job had burned an American flag as a protest, I wouldn't hire them.

I would call them scum, except that actual scum serves some useful purpose in the circle of life.


I agree with the motives behind Trump's tweets. I applaud them. Those motives make me glad I voted for him. But making flag-burning a criminal offense, even if it was found to be constitutional, is probably more trouble than it's worth. We would create martyrs and burden our police, courts, and jails.

Probably better to just let the little ignorant ingrates do their damage to whatever cause they think they're supporting.

So let them burn the flag. And allow the rest of us to jeer them and say what we think of them.

Free speech works both ways.

My two cents ...

 

It would be my civic duty to put the fire out, with him, or her. And yes in all likelihood, him or her would be unconscious at that point so would have very little say in the matter. And wake up with their clothes, or hair, or both on fire. You have no idea the rage that would ensue when I saw the act of burning a flag, no idea.

 

Couldn't depend on them in combat. They'd just get good men killed.

I would never let them wear the uniform. Never.

 

Gee, sorry if we expect more from the leader of our country......it's a stupid opinion....he should stand for free speech and not oppression.

 

Yeah internet, I know karate and also I've labelled myself an alpha male.

 

The argument could be made that your first amendment ends when you use it to incite violence which this could do, however it falls short of that mark for me as I dont believe americans should become violent when other americans decide to use their free speech. Trump needs to retract this. The sooner the better.

 

And what did she do a year later?

 

Hope you save up bail money.

 

Trump used his right to free speech, and he didn't encourage violence.

 

The Supreme Court isn't God and anyone can disagree with any ruling. The Supreme Court also has made exactly opposite rules than it has in the past in many instances.

In the past, the Supreme Court ruled that blacks don't even have a right to appear in court - and obviously those claiming anyone who opposes any Supreme Court ruling opposes the rule of law. So it appears many "progressives" agree that for decades blacks rightly had no legal rights whatsoever.

I think burning the American flag should be a misdemeanor offense and that the government may ban burn the flag (or burning anything else.) There also is an irony that burning an American flag is protected but in nearly all cities burning trash is a criminal offense. But isn't burning trash a political statement in opposition to landfills?

 

“We have a First Amendment, which says that the right of free speech shall not be abridged, and it is addressed in particular to speech critical of the government.

I mean, that was the main kind of speech that tyrants would seek to suppress.

Burning the flag is a form of expression. Speech doesn’t just mean written words or oral words. It could be semaphore, burning a flag is a symbol that expresses an idea."

- That big ole liberal, Justice Scalia

 

so did you fee this strongly When hillary clinton co sponsored the Flag Protection Act in 2005, which would have made flag burning punishable by a year in jail and a $100,000 fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_Protection_Act_of_2005

The Flag Protection Act of 2005 was a proposed United States federal law introduced by Senator Bob Bennett (R-UT), with original co-sponsor Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY).[1] Additional co-sponsors include Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Mark Pryor (D-AR) and Thomas Carper (D-DE). The law would have prohibited burning or otherwise destroying and damaging the US flag with the primary purpose of intimidation or inciting immediate violence or for the act of terrorism. It called for a punishment of no more than one year in jail and a fine of no more than $100,000

 

Yeah he did and burning the flag has always been a symbol of the freedom it represents. To ban that is an attack on free speech which will without a doubt send shockwaves across the nation.

 

that flag law was never passed. you were right about clinton

 

While I would never burn the flag, someone needs to tell Trump this is a free country, not a dictatorship

 

No they'd be in units all to themselves.

Let's see how the back seat drivers perform when they get to defend the country they take for granted.

I bet it would put a stop to them breeding more of these social parasites.