AH roll yes, we can take the word of scientists who have actual physical evidence which has nothing to do with your example of myth and belief by a kook who "found Jesus" BTW, even if a fetus could think, do math, sing opera, it still would have no right to be where it is without the consent of the person it's in. .....now prove YOUR contention that an aborted (dead) fetus can think........
If this was the Religion section I'd be happy to post plenty more statements by scientists to the effect that in their opinion there is a God..
And none of them would have their OPINIONS published is reputable peer reviewed scientific journals either. Science has proven you wrong about the fetus and your deflections are just meaningless failures.
You atheists regard scientists as your "gods", but they're far from infallible, just watch some "Seconds from Disaster"- type vids on youtube to see how unbelievably stupid they can be..
What have atheists got to do with the discussion? Nothing. And of course you can't prove atheists consider scientists as "gods" but that doesn't stop you from posting it. ...and you still haven't proven YOUR claim that fetuses can think...even when they're dead - - - Updated - - - Which has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.....it's just a diversion since you haven't proven fetuses can think.
Your deflections are not helping your position one iota. When it comes to being "unbelievably stupid" I can show you a "creation museum" where they have people riding around on dinosaurs. https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/thi...bout-dinosaurs?utm_term=.ofX0r75ol#.fsJOL0EwG
Look mate, you claim that scientists say foetuses can't think, so are you telling us that scientists are never wrong?
Look "mate", YOU claim even dead fetuses can think and haven't told "us" how you can prove it.... Care to get back to the topic or do you want to just keep floundering around with silly pictures and buybull quotes ??
Onus is entirely on YOU to PROVE that scientists are "wrong" about fetuses. Everything else is just a deflection on your part.
Look bud, I never claimed for a fact that foetuses can think, you've misread one of my little jokes.. Scientists are not totally sure that foetuses can't think, so I'm keeping an open mind. Incidentally I'm a scientist myself in a minor way, I got College of Preceptors exam passes in General Science and Advanced Science in the 60's and went on to work in science labs. PS- I also got a pass in English language which is why I spell it the quaint medieval english way 'foetus'..
See my reply to FoxHastings above, I'm a scientist myself.. Incidentally the topic is 'Why abortion is a good thing', so my position is that it's probably a good reason if continuing the pregnancy poses serious health risks to the mother and/or baby.
As a purely practical matter, abortion should be legal. The problem the right wing makes with abortion is they think abortions weren't happening before Roe V. Wade legalized them. The reality is that there were as many abortions performed in 1972 as there were in 1973. The Doctors just wrote something else down on the charts. Doubt me? Check out birth figures from the period. The birth rate didn't drop in 1973 and actually went up in 1975.
Well, if killing people cuts back on crime, i suppose that is one way to do it. Why not kill all black males, since they are statistically the highest crime demographic? Why not kill all illegal aliens, since they commit many of the crimes in the country? This logic is so convoluted, i'm surprised you posted it. Let's just give full discretion to some ruling elites, to decide who is best fit to live, or not. They can manage the food supplies, births, deaths, & everything about the rest of our poor, pathetic lives.. all the while, supporting them in the lap of luxury, of course. No thanks. I don't want to live in this brave new world you imagine. It would just be another despotic hell.
Oh? What took you so long to say so? Why didn't you say at the time you posted that you believe a dead fetus can think ???? I knew from the second I saw your claim it was a "joke"....I knew it before you did Now is this a joke ? ""Scientists are not totally sure that foetuses can't think"" Some scientists entertain the idea that something without a brain can think ??.....maybe just ""scientists"" like you... Which scientists? Where is their proof? OK, we've gone around and around on your "joke" claim let's not really keep this up. Fetuses can't think.....and, here's the really important part, it wouldn't matter if they could.
""""Let's just give full discretion to some ruling elites, to decide who is best fit to live, or not. They can manage the food supplies, births, deaths, & everything about the rest of our poor, pathetic lives.. all the while, supporting them in the lap of luxury, of course."""" Uh, I think you should look around at this country. We are there NOW and it will get worse under the Orange Ruling Monarch. Despotic Hell is here, coming to you in real life January 20th...
You are correct. Righties act like there were no abortions before 1974....but education frightens them and for them the history of the world as proof of how long abortion has been around isn't real....lefties just make up that history stuff, doncha know. Conversely, the poor things think if RvW is overturned abortions will end !!! That's why, although they deny it, the righties ONLY want to punish women for having sex by forcing them to give birth......if that wasn't true they wouldn't be so busy trying to close clinics that provide safe affordable accessible birth control but they DO.
..so you believe in your partisan, propaganda steeped beliefs. IMO, it has been a living hell under the progressive filled system we live in, now.. constantly bombarded with lies & propaganda, distortions & death.. But not everyone likes this brave new world you are creating.
Well, all we can do is watch and wait while the RepubMessiah ( with his staff and cabinet of billionaires ) solves all those problems.........
Don't forget the moral side of it mate, for example the majority of christians think abortions are wrong unless they're done for medical reasons, and I go along with that. Atheists obviously think differently-
Pathetic that you don't remember posting that crap before. It would be ignorant to insist what one atheist thinks is what all atheists think and even more ignorant to think no Christians have abortions... (and the inability to read "Down's syndrome babies" adds to your level of "joke") Did you think ALL fetuses have Down's syndrome? Really?!?! You've been schooled in this, why do you persist in this silliness? The stuff you "missed" : Now is this a joke ? ""Scientists are not totally sure that foetuses can't think"" Some scientists entertain the idea that something without a brain can think ??.....maybe just ""scientists"" like you... Which scientists? Where is their proof? OK, we've gone around and around on your "joke" claim let's not really keep this up. Fetuses can't think.....and, here's the really important part, it wouldn't matter if they could.
Ya know, I knew quite a while ago you had nothing and you continue to prove it......I have a good idea why you're posting but can't state it here. Until you have a serious , non-religious statement of fact you will continue to have nothing.