Can sexuality change over time?

It isn't obvious because it doesn't make sense. Sexual attraction isn't a reaction to having sex. If anything having sex is an action informed by attraction.

 

Parents who molest tbeir children are by far fewer than there are children who turn out to be gay. Certainly being sexually abused in your childhood will cause you severe psychological damage and confusion that sometimes might result in homosexuality. Maybe. Anyways most homosexuals were not molested in childhood, I am sure.

How the heck can one voluntarily engage in the practice if one is not homosexual in the first place? Forcing homosexuals to have straight-sex won't cure them and forcing heterosexuals to have gay-sex won't convert them.

Just like heterosexuals are repulsed by the thought of gay-sex, homosexuals are repulsed by the thought of straight-sex. You cannot just engage in a sexual act "just like that". Additionally, if we push this notion in absurdum, anyone is capable of anything; if I force you to torture a kitty once, you will be addicted to the act for the rest of your life.

 

We are not really sure how many children are actually molested. We only know if the molester gets caught. A lot of times a child may not have a conscious memory of abuse, or they think it's normal, or they have been threatened and are afraid to turn in the molester. Same as rape, it is HIGHLY underreported. It doesn't have to be a parent either.

 

addicts be they gambling, drugs, smoking, alcohol and gay sex must first place the bet, take a drink or take a delivery to the rear (for men)

If they find enjoyment or escape then they continue and it becomes an addiction.

I firmly believe that something during the upbringing helps make a person more susceptible to addiction. If you are exposed to folks who like some gay sex then you might think it OK and want to give it a go yourself. I look toward the lesbians in California who started hormone treatments on their little boy at the age of 8 to convert him into a girl. Do you think his environment isn't messing him up? I look toward the failed parents who take their kids to Camp Aranutiq where they have the kids play dress up and act like the opposite sex. Do you think those kids won't become messed up adults?

The problem with political correctness is that we as a society have stopped deeming right from wrong. Instead of helping those with issues we instead patronize them and worse, pretend to be helping when we're really abdicating our responsibility of helping our brothers and sisters who need our help the most.

If you subscribe to the theory of "born gay" then you must do the same for every other sexual deviancy including pedophilia and if it's punishment to try and help a person living the gay lifestyle to cure themselves, then it's punishment to try and cure a person who is a pedophile.

To toss liberal logic back at you, "why should we punish people for how they were born"?

 

I think that child should be taken from those lesbians. That is nothing but child abuse!

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You make a few good points. HOwever, pedophilia harms children. Homosexuality does not.

 

what is acceptable among groups varies. Do you agree with stuffing a chunk of bamboo into your nose or mouth? Do you agree with eating dog, cat or monkey? Do you think it OK to engage in sex with people under the age of 18, 16, 14 etc? Look to Jihadis and you'll see young girls with older men. What makes what they do wrong but gay-sex is right?

In the USA, without any medical proof at all we've deemed those living the gay lifestyle as being akin to a different species or race. We decided that engaging in gay sex makes you special

In other societies they view it as simply a deviant sexual act and nothing more than that.

 

Nevertheless, it is not fair equating homosexuality to paedophilia or rape because, well...I do not really think I should have to explain why.

 

if you look back a few generations you will find that many of us had relatives who gave birth at 15, 16 and sometimes younger. Our families prospered.

If you wish to discuss maturity then I ask how mature do you thank our "children" are today who think it unfair to have winners and losers and competition as being bad? How mature are those who post hysterical "selfie" videos about Trump being elected? How mature are the children who can't handle the stress of a part time job while going to school? Many of our ancestors had to work the land or risk starvation while also attending school.

So, it's nothing more than our current version of morality that we deem sex with a 14 year old as being unhealthy but gay sex as being swell.

 

that is simply your version of what is moral. You believe gay sex to be OK and condemn societies which allow a 13 year old girl to be wed by an older male. Is your version of morality the correct one compared with others? Who has made you the almighty? You then rely on faith and nothing more because much like you would insist that there is no proof to the existence of God and it is my faith, there is no proof to being "born gay" and it's simply your faith.

 

I was 16 when I had my son. I was a child and not nearly ready for motherhood, so don't you go lecturing me that 15 and 16 year old girls are ready to have sex and families. They are NOT. Having sex and babies have HUGE consequences. So what was the point of throwing this little tidbit in there? What are you insinuating?

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Yes, I would like for you to explain why please. Thanks.

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I support gay marriage and I have nothing against homosexuals. In fact, I know a couple and they are really cool. However, that doesn't mean I necessarily think it is a "normal variant" of human sexuality. I think maybe there is something tweaked somewhere.

 

Did I ever say opinions amongst groups do not differ?

Actually, in Sweden the age limit is set at 15 and it is legal for a 15 year old boy to have sex with his 14 year old girlfriend. In Spain, amongst others, the age limit is 13. This too is entirely cultural.

But let us not confuse ****philia with paedophilia now.

Prepubescent children cannot give consent because they do not understand what they consent to and they are not even mature and developed enough to have sex even if they understand it. Two consenting adult men/females know what they are consenting to. Geeeez, how hard can it be?

It is "special" though, in the sense that you are deviating from the natural order, going against all rules and laws of evolution.

Some communities execute them...So what?

 

Fifteen is too young to be having sex.

 

Sorry, no offense but, if you cannot figure it out you are a terrible being.

Rape is objectively worse than consensual gay sex. Period.

I do not give a flying horse f*ck who other people marry, I despise identity politics and believe it is neither the government's- nor anyone else's business how people live their lives. I just want to be left alone.

And, yes. For the trillionth time, something is being "tweaked" to cause homosexuality - the balance of hormones!

 

A hormonal imbalance is easy enough to spot and correct.

 

The topic was about addiction.. how & why some action becomes compulsive. The beginnings of these things can vary, but once the genie is out of the bottle, it is hard to get it back in.

Sexual addiction is very real, & affects a lot of people. Some of the addictions are considered 'normal', while others are considered 'deviant'. I am not making any moral judgement about those terms, but merely defining & describing the process. Gay sex can become an addiction like any other. It engulfs the participant, & rules their lives. It defines them as a person, & dominates their life. That is how addictions work. Whether it be drugs, alcohol, pedophilia, or other socially aberrant behaviors, the addict no longer lives a life of balance & social normalcy. They become outliers in society, defined by their addiction, which many try to hide, embarrassed by their obsession with the act.

This is my perception on the matter, & i present it as my opinion.. it is certainly worth every penny it cost.

 

Depends entirely on the individual tbh. Everyone is different.

 

Most gay people have no anatomical/chemical abnormalities.

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I was 15, I knew 15 year olds and I've raised a child who was 15 and had 15 year old friends. No, 15 is too young. MUCH too young. I don't care how "mature" they think they might be. We ALL thought that!

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Most girls who had sex at a young age regret it and wish they had waited. I know I do. I know you guys think the the first time was great but guess what? Most girls do not.

 

The way I look at it is pretty simple and straightforward. If you are not able to work full time and provide for yourself and your baby (if you accidentally have one), then you are not old enough to be engaging in sex.

 

They are not bloody Down's patients or other kinds of chromosomal accidents, are they? Of course they look normal. As far as I am concerned we are yet to see the type of medical technology that can manipulate the prenatal development of a fetus.

Can you produce sperm? Have you had your period? If yes, then you are mature enough, if nature has it's word, that is.

Whatevs.

 

A period doesn't suddenly make a girl mature. You can't be serious. I know a girl who had her period at 9. Was she old enough too?

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As a matter of fact, if you are very active (like in sports, dancing, whatever), then your period may not even start until you are 15 and sometimes even 16. I didn't get mine until I was 15. I was very active in dance and cheerleading.

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Maybe I was 14. I don't really remember, but I do remember that I was in high school.

 

Hey, don't blame me! Blame nature.

My personal stance is that sex has no place outside a serious relationship and serious couples who do not want/cannot afford kids ought to use protection.

Yup.

 

Anyways. My point remains that homosexuality is a result of chemical/hormonal imbalance that gives you a "homosexual brain". If one's homosexuality is the result of "environment", it actually isn't. It just meant you had the homosexuality hardwired into you and that this one factor triggered that part of your brain to turn on.

 

You don't really know this. Lol. Nobody really knows what causes homosexuality.

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Nope, sorry, but just because a girl has a period doesn't mean she is old enough to have sex.

 

You are changing the argument, & moving the goal posts.
Plenty of people 'engage' in addictive practices, without becoming addicted. But SOME practices are more addictive than others. People can smoke a joint, & not become addicted. But people who do heroin, can get addicted quite easily. So there are different pressures in different addictive activities. Paedophelia, as has been pointed out, is a very addictive action. Perhaps a gay sexual encounter for some is benign, & ends there. But for others, the lure of the act & the deviance or other attractions slowly bring them into an addiction.

Plenty of people have 'tried' gay sex, & do not claim to be gay. Plenty of people have smoked a joint, but did not become 'druggies'. Where do you get this 'forcing people to have sex'? rebuttal? Is this some straw man or deflection to try to smear someone?

You cannot say with certainty about 'all homo or hetero' are always repulsed or attracted to either thought. That is merely your belief or opinion. And yes, plenty of people engage in a sexual acts, 'just like that'. It is called casual sex, & it is rampant in modern society.. even in Sweden, i am sure.

You seem obsessed with 'force'.. perhaps there is some deep disturbance in you that longs to control people, or dominate them in some way.. forcing people to have sex.. forcing people to torture kitties.. who is talking about these things, other than you?

 

Definitely isn't environment though.

I wasn't the one who equated consensual sex to paedophilia and rape...It was you.