Trump is tearing our country apart

He's got a long way to go to eclipse Obama for that trophy.

 

Donald Trump is not dividing the country- people like you are. The protester at the Berkley college riot, backed by the view of burning buildings and violence, and proudly holding a sign saying "Hate Free Zone" is. Congressmen who are making up crap to block excellent cabinet confirmations for political obstruction are. The people behind all this- somewhere in the left, but we don't know who- that are orchestrating all this hate and promoting it are. This crap began the moment they lost, before Trump even took office or action. But most of all the people who are buying the BS, following the bad examples like a street mob that has no real idea why it's there but just has to do harm- people who would deny others the "rights" they demand for themselves- people failing to remember who they are and what being American means.

That is who is dividing America, and they shame us.

 

Trump is the embodiment of everything that ISIS and Al Quida tell their disciples to believe about our country. He is the ugliest of "Ugly American(s)"

The whole world sees it.

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What baseless, idiotic and false prattle.

But it does reflect the bigotry of the far right!

 

Mah ... from an external point of observation, I have to say that the greatest racial tenses in recent American history have been recorded during Obama administration. So, I would wait some years before of saying that Trump administration is dividing the United States.

Trump is doing what he planned and declared during the electoral campaign. Probably some leftists find incredible that a politician doesn't lie during the electoral campaign ... eh, well, it happens that honest persons get elected ...

 

You don't seem to understand. The criticism of Trump is based solely on Trump's actions and comments. Even Republicans have been critical of his executive orders regarding the Muslim ban. After his abrupt phone call with the Australian P.M, Senator McCain hastened to repair our relations with the reliable ally. Mattis soften Trump's language related to placing Iran on notice. There have been uncounted instances where his staff and Republican lawmakers have had to mend the fences after Trump's impulsive actions.

No where is this more true than including Iran in his Muslim ban and placing the Persian nation "on notice." The later is based on shaky legal grounds. The former on no grounds at all. No individuals from five of the countries on the list - Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen - had been linked to any terrorist attacks in Europe in the last 15 years. There has never been a terrorist attack in the U.S. from these five countries. There has never been a terrorist attack in the U.S. committed by a refugee.

What is he protecting us from or is he just making headlines?

None of this has anything to do with the election or recognizing Trump as a legitimate President. Trump fans raise those issues when Trump has acted foolishly and his actions are indefensible.

To argue the nation would be as divided as it is now if Clinton had been elected is baseless speculation. The fact of the matter is the Trump Presidency has caused protests throughout the world and consternation on the part of members of his own party and staff.

 

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If Soros doesn't like Trump, leftists should elect Trump as their idols: the Pharaoh of globalization doesn't like this President ... this President is a hero.

Soros says to be democratic, that he believes in freedom, in human right ...

Oh well, that's great ... but it's easy [and not above suspicion] when you own a treasure of about 25,000,000,000 US$. How many African children could he save from starvation with such a mountain of money? Why is he not saving African children from starvation?

Hypocrisy?

If I was malicious I will think to ... but I'm not malicious, so ...

 

American psychology is tearing this country apart. White Americans just have to feel superiority over others...it's cultural, even when they're educated to college level. So, you get a whole bunch of f'd up social conduct even at the best of times from Caucasian Americans. Now, manufacturing is dead or dying in the US, nothing can change that unless China vanishes into thin air. So, this CREATES a bunch of white supremacists otherwise known as nearly 100% of working class white Americans. And they want that good old American sensation of feeling No 1, and there's no better way of feeling great than when its at somebody else's expense (or visa).

 

When Trump put Iran "on notice" he placed himself in an awkward position. He had to back up the statement or look impotent. At the same time, the inexperienced President did not want to start a war. His warning to Iran was rash, hurried, and without consultation with his advisors, most notably SecDef Mattis and SecState Tillerson. Why have a cabinet if you are not going to use it? Trump said on Twitter early Thursday morning that Iran was “on notice” and incorrectly said it had received $150 billion in the nuclear deal. This is no way for a President to act. On the other hand, well, this is Trump.

It should be noted that Iran has not initiated a war since the first half of the 18th Century. By way of comparison, the U.S. has been in fourteen wars and several skirmishes not considered wars since WWII. Also, we have 800 military bases around the world in 70 different countries, some of whom are within spitting distance of Iran. One might ask who is more aggressive, and the people-in-glass-houses scenario might apply.

It should also be noted there has never been a terrorist act by an Iranian in the U.S. Iran is totally incapable of attacking the U.S.

The Trump administration on Friday designated 25 individuals and entities associated “with Iran’s ballistic missile program,” including the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, for sanctions in response to the missile test last weekend, according to a senior administration official. The new sanctions are intended to focus on suppliers to the missile program and on groups that help arm terrorist organizations.

It should be pointed out that these are just U.S. sanctions. That alone makes them somewhat weak. Also, many experts have questioned whether new sanctions would have a significant practical effect. The companies that supply missile parts rarely have direct business with the United States, and allies have usually been reluctant to reimpose sanctions, many of which were lifted as part of the nuclear accord with Iran.

So, was all of this for show or was there some practical benefit?

 

Yours. And Democrats, yes.

 

64 million people did not and do not believe Hillary Clinton is qualified to be commander in chief of the armed forces. So that means 64 million people believe in 'baseless, idiotic and false prattle'. You wanna know who really is speaking baseless, idotic and false prattle? Senator Schumer, he seems to be running to get OUT of the Senate with his behavior.

 

Shanks. You are very good at laying information out in a reasoned manner, some of it even accurate, I like this. What say.....you become Trump's envoy to Iran, the representative of the US to Iran. You've written an excellent introduction letter here, I happen to think you're spot on, why not start your envoy job off with what you wrote here....but allow me to edit a tad, put a little spice into it, not to mention some actual facts.

Yo.....uh.......greetings Mullahs of Iran,

Your facilitation of international terrorism. Your proxy war with Israel. Your support for Hezbollah. Your puppet state Syria that is annihilating its' own people. I'd like to talk about all those...realities...not forgetting of course your responsibilities for directly targeting US soldiers during the Iraq War . May I point out to you that the United States has "800 military bases around the world in 70 different countries, some of whom are within spitting distance of Iran?" Cause you need to understand...we're the much more aggressive country, I mean.....you ain't even invaded no one since like the 18 century.....we do it during breakfast. So...look.....don't be facilitating international terror. Quit your proxy war with Israel and threatening her destruction. You ain't building no nuclear weapon......you don't want to anger the big dog in the neighborhood. It's already growling.

There is a new sheriff in town. Relations with Iran will be much different. How much more obvious a practical benefit would you like. The United States signed a weak and uninformed treaty with Iran and the current President will repeal and replace.....is a benefit, yes?

 

Most intelligent people want to give the new President a chance. It is the American way. There is only one problem. Trump isn't giving the American people a chance to give him a chance. The latest fiasco is a running Twitter feud with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Trump thinks that is funny. Therein lies the problem. He is acting like a child. He is not acting the least bit Presidential.

That is minor, but a shameful indicator of things to come. Other matters are far more serious. His executive orders Friday banning Muslims from seven countries from entering the U.S. was very alarming. The orders represented impetuousness, a total lack of planning, and were framed without consulting his advisors. Is Trump planning on running this country all on his own? The orders sparked protests all over the globe. The protests are historical. No American President has caused such consternation. His supporters blame it all on liberals. That is ludicrous. Trump's actions cause the protests.

Adding to the difficulty of giving him a chance is Trump's penchant for attacking our allies. His Friday executive orders angered the leaders of the U.K., Germany, and France. Earlier, he has said NATO is obsolete while encouraging an alliance with Russia to defeat ISIS even thought there is no basis for such an alliance. On Friday he told the Mexican President his military was weak and threatened to send our military to Mexico to deal with the cartels. The following day he got angry with the Australian P.M. and abruptly ended the call. Australia is one of our most reliable of allies, fighting alongside of us in every war from WWI to the present day. Blowing up at the Aussie P.M for a deal Obama made was just plain stupid and uncalled for.

A few days after that, and again without consulting his advisors, Trump placed Iran on notice for firing off a missile. The punishment he meted out is mild to totally meaningless. It was all for show, and that is relatively obvious.

Republican lawmakers and his staff and cabinet are constantly mending fences he has broken and he seems to do this on a daily basis.

Under these circumstances it is difficult to give this man a chance.

 

Speculation on whether Clinton would have been worse is a total waste of time. Everyone, including Trump fans, are aware of the uproar he has caused with his Muslim ban, threatening the Mexican president with invasion, insulting an extremely reliable ally (Australia), angering the leaders of the U.K., Germany, and France and some fantasize that Clinton could have been worse. That is moronic and without the slightest basis in fact.

 

I think the left and the media is tearing the country apart. America was a devided country well before Trump came into the picture.

 

What does this post have to do with Trump tearing our country apart? Trumps fans are living in the past. They can't defend Trump because his actions are inexcusable, so their only recourse is to go back into the past and relive the campaign and election. Others argue Clinton would have been worse, which is totally meaningless conjecture.

That is what happens when their hero is performing so badly.

 

Sir....your post is moronic and without the slightest basis in fact

 

Obama didn't cause protests across our country and around the world while angering nearly every ally we have.

 

Exactly. We have cities engulfed in flames, murders in our inner cities that rival Afghanistan's numbers, the Left just scorched through an entire campaign screaming racist, bigot, homophobe....Donald Trump has held a political office for two weeks....and is being blamed for cultural division.

I'm loving the hysterics, I think we're hearing the political death knell sounded for the Democrat Party. It's inspiring.

 

Trump is "causing protests?"

Sandy><Blackbeard "Shanks, you're being politically exterminated, what say you cease and desist with the whining and carve out a platform someone can actually vote for."

 

Your post completely evaded every statement made in the OP. You changed the subject to something totally irrelevant to the issues raised. The OP was totally devoted to the actions of our President, and you failed to defend him. Why? Because you could not. It is Trump's actions that are dividing this country and you know it because you didn't question the statements made.

Instead, you did what all Trump fans do ... change the subject. Think about this. If Trump is angering the leaders of the U.K., France, Germany, Mexico, and Australia while claiming NATO is obsolete, are protesters to blame for the reaction or is Trump?

Next time if you wish to support Trump, than defend him ... if you can. Don't change the subject. Changing the subject is a definite sign of weakness.

Now if you want to start a thread about the actions of about 100 thugs at Berkley or a thread about cabinet nominations, I'll be happy to join you. In the meantime, this thread is about Trump and what he is doing.

 

Actually, I support Trump's executive order. I think it makes perfect sense to halt all immigration temporarily and to work out any kinks in the system. If there are no kinks after the 90 days, even better. People seem to have missed the "temporary" part, and have argued it targets people when it "doesn't".
These people in effect, have decided to rebel against the legitimately elected president and Washington and are thus traitors.

 

It is true. Trump's actions are a recruiting tool for ISIS and Al Qaeda. They are referring to it as the "blessed Muslim ban."

It is amusing to hear Trump supporters scoff at that reasoning. They argue members of ISIS and AQ already hate the U.S. They completely ignore the fact the Muslim ban is a recruiting tool. In other words, Trump's Muslim ban is attracting new members, not the members of terrorist groups.

Also, his ban was an insult to Muslim nations, the very nations we need to fight -- and are fighting -- Islamic terrorist groups.

 

Well thats because he went around the world trashing the US

 

This is not about racial tension. Strange, if Trump is doing the right things, like you say he is, why is it you were unable to defend him from the criticism in the OP. Is it because everything said in the OP is valid and you couldn't question a single statement.

No one is denying that Trump is trying to fulfill his campaign promises. That isn't an issue. Trump causing protest around the world while angering important allies and key members of his own party are the issues. Care to comment on the issues raised in the OP?

 

I most definitely hope that it is a fabulous recruiting tool. I want to get all of our enemies in one location. Sort of like using a bug zapper. So in other words leftists are saying that Muslims are leftist snowflakes willing to destroy their own lives over perceived insults? Cool!