Trump is tearing our country apart

Review the OP. You never questioned a thing in the OP. This isn't about Obama. This is about Trump and his actions.

 

Review the OP. You never questioned a thing in the OP. This isn't about Obama. This is about Trump and his actions.

 

Maybe you should listen to your own advice. I was responding to you bringing up Obama making him relevant

 

In other words, this is all a joke to you. I noticed that you were unable to question anything in the OP. That implies you agree with everything said.

Perhaps you agree with this as well.

Trump continues to divide our nation. At a prayer breakfast Trump declared. "The world is in trouble, but we're going to straighten it out. OK? That's what I do. I fix things. We're going to straighten it out." Most assumed that kind of thinking meant that he was going to straighten out our enemies. Nope, he wishes to straighten out our allies and close friends.

Previously, the executive orders he signed Friday instituting a Muslim ban on seven sovereign nations angered the leaders of the U.K., Germany, and France while threatening his visit to the U.K. Earlier than that he has said NATO is obsolete and he is encouraging the breakup of the E.U.

All of that has to be pleasing to Putin, who everyone else but Trump thinks is an enemy. Russia certainly has provided no incentive ... other than kind words to Trump ... that she is America's friend. The very opposite is true, including her aggression in the Ukraine, annexation of Crimea, and she is an ally of Syria and Iran.

But Trump was not through angering our friends. Last week President Nieto of Mexico flatly stated that Mexico wasn't going to pay for Trump's wall, and he cancelled a meeting with Trump. Friday's call to Nieto was intended to patch things up between the new president and his ally. However, Trump told the proud Mexican President, "You have a bunch of bad hombres down there. You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it." Unbelievable, truly unbelievable.

Trump still was not through angering an ally. Australia is, or was, a powerful American ally who has stood by American soldiers in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War, Afghanistan, and Iraq. On Saturday Trump phoned the Australian P.M., Malcolm Turnball. It should have been one of the most congenial calls for the new commander in chief — a conversation with the leader of Australia, one of America’s staunchest allies.

Instead, Trump turned the call into an unmitigated disaster. He blasted Turnbull over a refu(*)gee agreement and boasted about the magnitude of his electoral college win, according to senior U.S. officials briefed on the Saturday exchange. He complained that he was “going to get killed” politically and accused Australia of seeking to export the “next Boston bombers.” Then, 25 minutes into what was expected to be an hour-long call, Trump abruptly ended it.

In the wake of Obama's sanctions against Russian intelligence services for interfering in our elections, the Trump administration eased sanctions against companies doing business with Russia's domestic intelligence agency.

 

I was one of the never Hillary, but also part of the never Trump.

 

Knowing me, the whole "America First" had me piqued, but I thought of him as an imbecile. That led me to strongly consider Gary Johnson, but then he had his "What is Aleppo" moment. I'm still an American Nationalist. I'm devout to this country above all else. And I think we can have an immigration/border reform that's constitutionally legal and should get less challenge from these radicals.

 

The protest at Berkley is not doing the left a bit of good. As a matter of fact, it is doing them a great deal of harm.

Hmmm, I wonder if these thugs were paid by members of the far right. Now that makes sense.

 

So, you achieved irrelevance!

 

I know. It's about the protestors and their actions. That you claim someone else is responsible for. Personal accountability.....understanding rights come with responsibility....are core values. You're responsible for your own actions, no one creates your protest, Shanks.

That's ridiculous.

 

Your signature kinda says it all, Sandy. It sounds brave, uplifting, confident, and strong. But to my mind it's like whistling in the dark. From what I've observed of Americans, there seems to be this almost desperate desire to present themselves as a country that's impervious to harm. Seems that many Americans just can't accept the possibility of their being vulnerable. Ironically, this mindset is what's helping to make them vulnerable today!

I suppose it's almost inevitable that a nation of people who have never been invaded, never been totally defeated, never been over-run, never been at real risk of being occupied and overthrown, will have a lot of resistance to being warned that they're now in very real danger. They simply won't credit it. They'll simply reject it, and even make grand-sounding declarations to bolster their confidence.

That's only natural, and you can't really be blamed for that. Unless, that is, you let it become your mantra. If you stick your heads in the sand and keep them there, while telling each other, "We do not live in fear", pretty soon you're most definitely going to be!

Another thing I find curious is that the haters of the current Conservative President all claim that his patriotism is going to get them all killed. Yet signatures like yours suggest a careless indifference to reality that is far more risky. It could get you all killed just as quickly.

 

I will certainly consider your offer. I certainly could do a lot better than ham handed Trump. Lesson number one: get advice from others. Lesson number two: compare what you might gain with what you might lose.

 

Baseless speculation, I don't think so. Most of the protesters are all pro Clinton. Independents aren't out there. As to the Muslim Ban, I just seen a poll which 57% of all Americans agree or are for it, 33% opposed.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...porary_ban_on_newcomers_from_terrorist_havens

Sounds like the majority of Americans agree with Trump on the ban. I agree with him on that. There is nothing wrong with a temporary 90 day ban on all people coming from those seven countries. To put the proper vetting procedures into place. Perhaps you're right, if Clinton was elected, perhaps Trump supporters would be acting more rationally.

 

Shanks.......that's why I think you should take the offer. Lesson one, Mullahs..........get advice from others. Don't consider a conflict from the United States unless you get advice. Secondly.......Ayatollah....you best f'n compare what you might gain...with what you are SURE to lose.

Don't poke the bear that lives above you. The Ottoman Empire no longer exists as it chose to involve itself in a European War, had the Germans not knocked Russia out early, the Ottomans might have been annihilated. It's a really easy rule to learn.........and thus why go over and awaken a sleeping giant? Why have the US focus on you......hey uh.......Mullahs......why not just wait 4-8 years......see if America wants to go back to appeasement....and nuclear deals.....and delivering cash onto the tarmac of our airports to get hostages back......let's not poke and pry at the United States.

They're nuts. Let's go poke the smaller....less deadly animals in this zoo.....let that one go back to sleep.

 

I agree on Trump not acting presidential, in a way he is like a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum. As I stated on his EO about banning all people from seven countries, religion wasn't identified, 57% of all Americans agree with that. Now NATO is a sore spot with me. It accomplished its mission once the USSR broke a part and the Warsaw Pact disbanded. At that time NATO should have went the way of CENTO and SEATO, cold war relics.

Bush the first made an agreement with Gorbachev that if he let Germany unite peaceably, NATO would expand beyond the German border. So much for honoring one's agreements.

I will admit that Trump to me is one big question mark. There are times I think he is an idiot and other times a genius. Which one, heck if I know.

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The banning of all people regardless of religion from seven countries you mean. A temporary 90 day ban. I see nothing there to get upset about.

 

I don't know. I think the radicals regardless of which side of the immigration issue are going to protest, demonstrate and do their thing. I tend to ignore them which I think Trump should also. Someone needs to take his twitter away from him. He also needs to learn to think things through before spouting off at the mouth or using his twitter thing. I must admit, there are times Trump does act like an idiot. But I suppose I expected no less.

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Perhaps, but one thing is for certain, I didn't vote for evil as others did regardless of whether it was for Trump or Clinton.

 

I think you have to look at what Trump has been saying about NATO in a different way.

Look at it from the perspective of a Business Man using leverage to effect positive change that is beneficial to the United States.

I for one do not believe for a second that Trump want's to disband NATO!! LOL!!!

Nor do I think Trump is actually interested in lowering the U.S. Military presence in Japan or the Pacific.

So what is Trump doing?

Simple.....he is scaring the SH!# out of some of our allies who we have been footing way to great a percentage of the cost to have U.S. Forces stationed in those nations in order to rework a new agreement that is more favorable to the United States.

Let's face it nations like Japan and Germany and others are CONSTANTLY B!#CHING and MOANING about having large numbers of U.S. Forces in their nations and what has happened in the past is they have been PLAYING US as we end up paying more of the cost share than we should as even though they WANT those U.S. Forces in their nations they are smart enough to pretend they DON'T want them and thus we end up paying too much of the costs!!

Trump is calling their bluff and saying..."OK.....you don't want us then we will LEAVE but if you do want us you are going to now have to pay a LOT more to pay the costs for such large U.S. troop deployments!!"

It is actually a very smart strategy!!

AA

 

We never get to vote for the person we each think is what America really needs.

There are over 300 million people in America.

Our system is designed to put in office someone that essentially 0% of America would have chosen had they been free to chose whomever they wanted from before the primaries.

 

Wait. No one wanted the smartest, most qualified, best prepared candidate in history, Hillary Clinton?

 

Evaded the statements? In a way. But if you post a bunch of trash and bash crap and want to make those points the objective of a debate, it is dismissed because it is still trash- and not worthy of debate. I have watched some of the confirmation hearings too- and that is exactly what i've seen Warren and Franken do- ignore the job at hand and try to make an anti-Trump political smear out of it. Embarrassing to realize that such people get in office at all.

 

There were people higher on my own list.

Clinton's experience was seriously attractive, though.

I voted for Bernie. But, I didn't know Bernie from Adam until the primaries started up. And, I didn't agree with everything he said.

 

Americans have really lose perspective on our government.

Somehow, they think that whatever happens must be best for themselves, PERIOD, with no compromise.

Our government is a STUPENDOUS compromise, because that is the only possible approach to leading this many millions of people.

We were DESIGNED to BE a compromise by our founders.

Those who are absolutist today, who reject ideas because they aren't "pure" in some respect simply have NO CLUE what makes this country great.

The last years have seen our congress STOPPED dead in its tracks, because they (and we) seem to have forgotten that the REASON for congress existing was for COMPROMISE!!!

If our founders weren't interested in compromise, why would they have created a congress???

 

Hey, that is smart on Trump's part!

 

But the system, where flawed, does work. Consensus is reached. Local politics initially, the party cuts its teeth during primary, comes up with a platform and a candidate...and then try to get him elected, many not voting for him or her in primary, but do vote for the candidate in the general election. Of course you don't agree with everything anyone says, what you had to do was compromise. If everyone voted for their father or mother, son or daughter for President thinking they're most qualified, Granny Smith would win seeing as she had 45 grandchildren.

 

Uhhh....no...she was not.

Clinton although experienced has been part of the problem as she has a rap sheet a mile long.

What she is responsible for in Benghazi is criminal.

And there is a long list of people she has buried.

AA

 

The compromise was in creating three co-equal branches of government, not in designing compromise in Congress. Congress was built where representative majority rules, the House comes up for election every 2 years. Designed to be messy, to be tuned to the people's will. If We the People dictate that it should offer even no compromise, then that is what they were sent there to so. The compromise is between branches of government, not within the Chambers of Congress. Those were designed to be bloodbaths where We the People's voices are heard and represented.