Is it possible to have a civil discussion about racists supporting Trump?

Oh yea I'm not denying that he is dangerous. He realized that saying backdoor racist things got him crowds of cheering. But this empowers extremists, and when they realize that he is just a three-year-old mixed with a 70-year-old, there could be trouble.

 

OP, sure they got some racists ands hate groups that want for Trump. But the vast majority that voted from Trump did not even consider race.

 

Trump is not responsible for everyone that supports him, and not everyone that supports Trump is a racist, etc. This is just an extension of Hillary's 'basket of deplorables' remark. You sir lump all Trump supporters into the same basket, just as some conservatives lump all liberals in the same basket. If you are going to bring up the outrage of KKK, are you willing to condemn some of the comments and actions of Black Lives Matters...I thought you wouldn't, just saying. How about long time Democrat and former KKK grand wizard Robert Byrd who said the 'N' word more times than you can probably count. Your selective outrage is comical and typical of the left. Do as I say, not as I do, should be your motto.

 

In fact, there is far more evidence of KKK support for Clinton than for Trump.

“Klan Leader Claims KKK Has Given $20K To Clinton Campaign
A prominent member of the Ku Klux Klan on Monday said the group has made over $20,000 donation toward the campaign of the presidential aspirant, Hillary Clinton.” Jake Dubois, blackmattersus.com, 4/27/16.

https://blackmattersus.com/7301-klan-leader-claims-kkk-has-given-20k-to-clinton-campaign/

 

When sheeted Klansmen and Nazis showed up at a Trump rally Trump supporters beat the crap out of them.

 

What racism? Quote Trump being racist, not some fringe idiot that Trump clearly disavowed.

 

Agreed. The First Amendment provides the freedom for speech by racists favoring Trump and loathsome racists like BLM, communist bullies like the Occupy movement and misandrysts like the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) hat harridans who support various tyrannical left positions.

Surely in the interest of fairness, you will posit a question as to providing defense of the rioters who shut down conservative speakers, vandalize buildings, and beat up Trump supporters and ask if there is a civil conversation about defending such behavior like you ask Trump supporters to defend the words of Stormfront.

We eagerly await.

 

Have not read this thread before answering its OP question. Yes it is possible to have a civil discussion about racists supporting Trump as long as Trump supporters are not part of the discussion. You sure as hell can't do it on this forum.

Bet I am proven right before I finish page three.

 

It has only been in recent decades that Muslims were allowed into the USA. The Statute of Liberty and even the poem on it stood for a safe white monolith refuge of singular ethnicity and common values. The values and ethics of Muslims was considered so adversarial and counter to those of the United States they did not want Muslims in the country to vote or other act to replace American secular and socials values with their own theocratic anti-secular values. Theodore Roosevelt signed an executive order banning ALL Muslims from the country specifically, citing that they believe in polygamy as well as other values they have.

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Not the corporation CNN. If you say anything they don't like you are now banned from the network.

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No, that was dixiecrat racist Hilary Clinton with her "fight for us!" slogan openly cheering BLM and others who engage in violent and anarchy.

 

I am unaware of any organizations comparable to the neo-nazi Daily Stormer and other white supremacist groups similarly endorsing and enthusing over other politicians in comparable adulation, but if such individuals exist, they are not the President of the United States.

Still, if you wish to initiate a topic that addresses endorsements and worship of other politicians or private citizens, I would be interested of whatever links you could provides to their official endorsements.

 

As the recipients (myself and my family) of plenty of racism from white privileged Progressives, and almost none from conservatives under the age of 70, this thread strikes me as both hilarious and terrifyingly blind.

 

You lose.

 

yeah right, crank,. You are one of the few posters around here I do NOT believe when you write stuff like this.

 

I read the first three pages, Pycckia. Our definition of 'civilized' discussion is very very different.

 

Yeah, better watch out for those gun-toting tree huggers!

 

Perhaps we do. But seeing as how nobody used the word "spew" or accused anyone of difficulties with reading comprehension, I rate it a win for a thread on PF.

Anyway, what's the big deal?

The liberal press spent a good deal of time calling Trump a racist, so naturally racists would vote for him.

 

how can you have a civil discussion about rasists supporting trump when you dont include racists supporting clinton in the same thread ? going one way without the other is pretty much condemning it from the start and those supporting clinton where just as bad or worse (blm among others) and clinton sure got along better with some of them then trump ever seem to either

 

Good for Teddy....
Inviting muslims into our countries is as crazy as a dog inviting fleas onto its back..

 

The above has to be the best answer to this threads question.

And it pretty much answers any questions of 'why' racists would have supported Trump, thereby giving Trump a few thousand votes more overall, but not enough to have had a major impact on the outcome of any States results.

 

The DP has always been the party of racism and racists.

“Keith Ellison, Sally Boynton Brown or Jehmu Greene would all be excellent choices — I really like Keith though … I mean, at least he knows,” former Klan leader David Duke wrote on his Twitter page.” Anti-Semite David Duke Endorses Keith Ellison for DNC Chair, POLITICSFebruary 15, 2017

http://sourcesnews.com/anti-semite-david-duke-endorses-keith-ellison-for-dnc-chair/

 

Should the need arise, I'm sure they would be, but unless you meet one simply ignoring them reduces their significance and news coverage. I don't believe Trump feels he owes such groups anything at all for their claimed support relative to racism, but if he succeeds in making life better for ALL Americans they too will benefit.

It should be neither but there will be those, like yourself, who will try to make it a major issue.

Wouldn't it be much more reasonable and rational to pose that question to members of one of those groups?

IMHO, this thread simply takes us away from focusing on more important issues our government(s) should be tending to, bickering among ourselves rather than with our representatives.

 

Trumpies seem to be very upset when his adulation by neo-nazis and other white supremacist organizations is accurately reported.

The political ingénue is on record as expressing pejorative sentiments about groups targeted by such organizations that they find so appealing. It is of value to follow whether his policies continue to strike their fancy.

There are Trumpies who would wish to suppress this ilk of fellow Trumpies, but observing them can be regarded as a reverse "canary in the coal mine" index. If neo-nazis and other white supremacists continue to thrive under the reign of their proclaimed "leader," it is a metric of the fetid atmosphere around him.

Denying that neo-nazis and other white supremacist organizations feel that they have finally found their champion in Trump is not an option. Should they turn on him, that accrues to his credit. Should their worship persist, that is informative.

 

I'm not sure if you've noticed but America has rejected your nonsense. Feel free to look at state legislators and governors as well as the US House, Senate and WH. The old method of false accusations, bigotry and insults used by the left has been rejected

 

I appreciate your assuming the role of spokesperson for America, but noting neo-nazis and white supremacists exercising freedom of speech is eminently American.

There has never before been a US president that has so energized these organizations and evoked their allegiance.

Suppressing such unprecedented political expression is not commensurate with the values Americans espouse.

Knowledge is good. Do not fear it.

 

I think we are more likely to have a civil war than a civil conversation with the left. Not individually but seems there is no more free speech tolerance by the left.