Antarctica Hits Record High

How do I believe in magic wands? The evidence is clear - WE added extra CO2 to the atmosphere WE gut down great swaths of forests all over the world and WE are also releasing methane

So what part of that is difficult to understand?

 

Multiple sources.

 

You need a magic wand to believe that global warming of ~ 0.1 deg C per decade would result in the temperature of the OP.

 

The use of renewable or clean energy sources is not meant to reverse climate change as NOTHING can do that except long periods of time without further greenhouse contributions. Instead this is meant to eliminate the need of emitting these gasses and will not do so. Basically our world population is not capable of working together in such a way to deal with what is happening for political and logistic reasons.
Regardless, we will not feel the full effect of what is up there today for many decades according to simple chemistry.

 

Then why incur the economic damage of increasing energy prices and reduce the capability to adapt to whatever climate variations may present themselves ??

 

Primarily because we can. Also because it makes us feel better about at least trying to do something. Also, most people do not really understand the science and simply do not want to as it is not pleasant.
Then we have a large group that could not understand it if they tried.

 

That makes no sense. We can do a lot of things which result in no significant effects but do economic damage which affects the poor much more than the higher income people. Because rich people feel virtuous is no reason to do damage to those less economically fortunate. Indeed it is immoral.

 

Humans need no reason to be immoral.

 

A need by some to feel virtuous with an immoral result should be prevented. And that is what global warming alarmism is all about.

 

The namecalling and conspiracy theories really are all you have.

And they're all you'll ever have, being that every bit of the science disagrees with you. That's not going to change, no matter how many insults and conspiracy theories you toss. The science says you're wrong on every topic, hence you're wrong. As I'm not PC, I don't agree that all opinions are valid. Your opinions are contradicted by the facts, hence they are wrong, no matter what your "feelings" say.

 

Just out of curiosity you do know that the Antarctic is actually getting colder don't you.

 

Well, no, because it's getting warmer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_in_Antarctica
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The continent-wide average surface temperature trend of Antarctica is positive and significant at >0.05 °C/decade since 1957
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The central portion of Antarctica might be cooling, but the edges are warming more strongly, so the average makes for warming.

 

Many say different so at very least it's controversial unless of course you are in the warmer cult where controversy is not allowed.

"Temperatures on the Antarctic Peninsula have reversed course, dropping by an average of about 0.5 degree Celsius per decade since the late 1990s while the rest of the world experienced record heat, 10 researchers from the British Antarctic Survey concluded in an article published in the journal “Nature” on Wednesday."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...la-cooled-in-past-two-decades-as-world-warmed

"Intensive scientific study of both Earth's poles has found that from 2009 to 2016 overall temperature has dropped in the southern polar region.

NASA’s Operation IceBridge is an airborne survey of polar ice and has finalised two overlapping research campaigns at both the poles.

In the last few weeks NASA has revealed the overall amount of ice has increased at the Antarctic and the amount of sea ice has also extended."

http://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...NG-six-years-Arctic-north-pole-climate-change

 

Sea water freezes at 28.4 degrees F. Fresh water freezes at 32 degrees F. So, as ice melts on the mainland it flows over the top of the seawater and freezes at a higher temperature. This increases the extent of the sea ice. Other things must also be considered. The fact that the Antarctic continent is way below the freezing temp. of water year round should be taken into consideration. Ice does not measure temperature.... thermometers do. Goole the Larsen ice shelf. Antarctic ice is decreasing fast.

 

All very interesting but the fact is Antarctica is not warming and in fact that is cooling, even your nada buddies say so

 

Why do you lie about this? Sea ice around Antarctica is at a record low.


The graph above shows Antarctic sea ice extent as of March 5, 2017, along with daily ice extent data for four previous years. 2016 to 2017 is shown in blue, 2015 to 2016 in green, 2014 to 2015 in orange, 2013 to 2014 in brown, and 2012 to 2013 in purple. The 1981 to 2010 median is in dark gray. The gray areas around the median line show the interquartile and interdecile ranges of the data. Sea Ice Index data. - Credit: National Snow and Ice Data Center

Antarctic sea ice is nearing its annual minimum extent and continues to track at record low levels for this time of year. On February 13, Antarctic sea ice extent dropped to 2.29 million square kilometers (884,000 square miles), setting a record lowest extent in the satellite era. By the end of February, extent had dropped even further to 2.13 million square kilometers (822,400 square miles). Sea ice extent was particularly low in the Amundsen Sea, which remained nearly ice-free throughout February. Typically, sea ice in February extends at least a couple hundred kilometers along the entire coastline of the Amundsen.

 

Argue with NASA not me, I just posted their link.

"Sea ice surrounding Antarctica reached a new record high extent this year, covering more of the southern oceans than it has since scientists began a long-term satellite record to map sea ice extent in the late 1970s"

Sea ice surrounding Antarctica reached a new record high extent this year, covering more of the southern oceans than it has since scientists began a long-term satellite record to map sea ice extent in the late 1970s"

"A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.



The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.



According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008"

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddar...ns-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum

 

The Arctic sea ice extent is melting and shrinking, with a consistent downward trend over a number of decades....and scientists measure that shrinkage by measuring the year to year minimum ice extent in September.

The Antarctic sea ice extent is currently shrinking, again as measured at the minimum extent in March (Southern Hemisphere summer)

And the facts are, as I just posted....
Antarctic sea ice is nearing its annual minimum extent and continues to track at record low levels for this time of year. On February 13, Antarctic sea ice extent dropped to 2.29 million square kilometers (884,000 square miles), setting a record lowest extent in the satellite era. By the end of February, extent had dropped even further to 2.13 million square kilometers (822,400 square miles).

 

The AGW cult is fracturing into two sects much like Shiite and Sunni in Islam. One faction says Antarctica is getting colder and gaining ice and is desperately trying to find a way to make this fit into their AGW hypothesis just as they are looking for ways to explain the overall "pause" in warming. Then there's the other sect that's sticking to their story and saying Antarctica is getting warmer and there is no pause. Fun to watch really.

 

More crackpot denier cult mythology.

In the real world....

New study confirms - No "pause" in global warming

 

Yes I already know which sect of the cult you are in.

 

So hilarious how you bamboozled, reality-challenged, anti-science, dead ignorant denier cultists are crazy enough to think that the intelligent, sane, rational people who accept the scientific facts about human caused global warming are the ones in a cult. Too bad you are so terminally confused.

Your membership in a cult is not in question....you are the one posting denier cult lies....

 

You are arguing with NASA not me.

https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum

 

Nope! I'm arguing with someone so clueless about all this that they can't comprehend the fact that I'm referring to the record low minimum Antarctic sea ice extent this year...while you are prattling about maximum extents.

 

Yes I realize you were attempting to obfuscate and deflect from the subject to of the OP. Thanks for admitting it.