Hawaii judge puts Trump's travel ban on hold

Speaking of man-children, the judges are only doing this because it's Trump making the orders. When Obama banned travel from another country, nobody said a word.

 

We're dealing with a bunch of butthurt, bitter angry people. This is what you can expect with that kind, and Trump knows it.

 

It's not red blue
it's rational and irrational, I'm sure that little tin foil hat on your pointy little head is clue enough to which one of those you are.

trump 306
Looneys 225

 

Since the idiot judges don't like the temporary EOs Trump could simply sever diplomatic relations with those countries. That would have the effect of a permanent travel ban until he leaves office. He could do that if the old buzzards on the SCOTUS don't support him. And if he really wanted to make a point as to who the big dog is he would sever relations with all of the muslim countries at once. While that might be extreme it's possible.

 

I'm not on Blue Team, but you assume I am because I'm not a red Kool Aid drinker like yourself.

 

I'm sure that would go over well.

 

Including campaign rhetoric is a never before used precedent. Even the Seattle judge knew better. That is called going outside the 4 corners of the document.

 

Yes they do! They prove intent. Are you denying that Trump's intent is to stop the immigration of muslims? Or are you denying that it's unconstitutional to do that?

 

I feel sorry for the United States of America with "minds" like yours thrashing around in our legal systems.... But always be on your guard for goofy-looking people carrying pressure cookers! Who knows how many of them came pouring in here while your beloved President Messiah was in power...?

Wait! Is that an ambulance I hear coming down the street?! Go get 'em, councelor! Got to make them Beemer payments... right?!

 

WTF are you talking about? They don't.

 

What is scary is that it is clear as night as day that Trump can do this. You have legal precedent, and you have the law itself. And you have idiots going about saying no he can't blah, racist, islamophobia, mulism ban etc. This is just the tactic that the liberals have to use, if this finds its way to the Supremes they're going to lose and the know it.

 

I don't know why he doesn't. You have had several legal eagles saying he is in the right.

 

That is partially because there has never been a precedent where a Presidential candidate espoused such religious animosity so publicly and yet successfully got elected.

Yes, it is an example of going outside the 4 corners of the document. And it happens all the time during judicial review.

 

Yes. When reviewing a law for violation of the Constitution because it is illegally discriminatory, you review both for the intent behind and for the effect of the law.

 

Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better.

 

Obama did not ban travel from another country.

Obama also did not express religious animosity to the point where it was explicitly clear that he was actively trying to pass a law with discriminatory intent.

 

That IS a good way to describe Trump.

 

Well, except the color of ones skin has no relation, whatsoever to their need or right to access the courts. Being from one of the 5 countries in the ban DOES have a relation to our ability to keep out potential terrorists.

 

Iraq, 2011

 

How many terrorists from the SIX countries involved have killed an American on US Soil over the last 5 years? 10 years? 15 years?

I just want to understand the trend line.

 

Coming from someone who says that they are or were an lawyer.... if you were, I would contact your law school and get your money back.

 

He did not ban travel from Iraq. He stopped one type of refugee program from that country.

And he did it in response to a justifiable reason (two terrorist linked individuals made their way into the country through that particular program and set off the Bowling Green Massacre).

 

Ok find provide your source, bc we both now your full of it.

 

Which is what trump is doing. But lets get our panties in a twist of it.

 

I have been informed that Trump adopted his idea for a ban from a list that the Obama administration used. Perhaps he (Obama) would care to explain why he specifically zeroed in on six nations out of the whole group of Middle Eastern nations that pose a risk.
Is it possible that our intelligence community knows something you do not?

You can repeat what must be seen by now as a lie as many times as you please and
that still doesn't legitimize it .
And when the war in Northern Ireland was going on federal scrutiny on people traveling from the North to areas in mostly the eastern United States that were sympathetic to the Republican cause, that was NOT an indictment of Roman Catholicism per se but of Northern Ireland as a hotbed of terrorism at that point. But you surely know better and your false claims are nothing more than agitprop nonsense.

Really? What "history" would that be?
The one in your mind?