Foreign ministry reports Turkey does not recognize annexation of Crimea by Russia

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  1. Ninian

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    ..and there we go, fresh proof of you being an ukrainian teenager.
     
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    Well, let's be honest, the red army was basically driven out by bedsheeted mujas in sandals, with a few old British rifles! What do you know about ukranian teenagers, are you one?
     
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    Muscovy, Muscovites, Russians, have same connotations, pertains to same thing. Not much different than others calling Americans , Yanks, yankees, yankeedoodle, dogs, pigs, Israeli lapdogs, GI Joe, etc. And I am in agriculture, not an "agent" of any kind.
     
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    Yeah-yeah-yeah, it has no-o-onthing to do with 'moskal' or fact that you often catch and repeat ideas of Litwin. Ri-i-i-ight.
     
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    Su-u-u-u-u-ure, and then they all went back homes to their bears on unicycles, because all russians are bears on unicycles, it's a well known fact!

    In fact, I am a bear too! And just think how much it takes to type with claws while balancing on the unicycle!
     
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    Suit yourself...btw the Russians often used the term "xoxols" or hohols", isn't that derogatory?
     
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    The Soviets/Russians were driven out of astan...we're they not?
     
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    Not often! AND unlike 'muscovite' - that term, at least, exists.

    How do I know it? I checked Urban Dictionary. No 'muscovites' in English. ^^

    Welcome to XXI century, where people can check if you are lying or not. Learn to speak truth now. ^^
     
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    Oh, a wonderful - even if predictable move. Trying to change subject, are we?
     
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    What's obvious is that you have no concept of what constitutes Nazism. It goes beyond symbolism to a 'supremacist' arrogance in one's heart... Where compassion is looked upon as a weakness rather than as a virtue.

    In other words, it's the antithesis of Christianity.

    HOW DARE YOU!
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    First: Yes, Aztecs, I must have confused them but Mayans were not "extinct" at all. They attacked to "first expedition" forces in Cuba.They even captured two Mayan natives and taught them Spanish and learned that the amount of gold the Aztecs had was staggering even the fact was otherwise. That however led to second, third expeditions which was participated by Cortes.

    Second: Comprehension is the tool you need. Otherwise you spin round and round right at the same spot like a whirligig and that gets you nowhere. I said "the methods" of Hernan Cortes and I referred to the particular strategy he used to capture the Mayan king, sorry the Aztec king, Montezuma. I read it in Broken Spears, a book revealing the reasons why Montezuma didn't act decisively while he had the superior power when Spaniards came to Mexico. Cortes got informed by Montezuma's enemies that Aztec could run his forces over easily but the good news was the group of white men with horses, different language and tools were seen as gods by Montezuma. So, Cortes made him do as he pleased... He said in his letter to the Spanish King:

    So instead of killing him or openly imprisoning Montezuma while he could, he decided not to because he knew such action could backfire and make Aztec people resist, which eventually did but that's another topic's discussion. There are strong cliques in this world, very strong ones, that can implement such methods in some countries. These cliques are also called "deep state", a term invented by Turks to describe the group that is actually in power behind the scenes which doesn't necessarily mean "an absolute" one though... I just wanted to point out that method, and guess now you know what I'm talking about...
     
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    There is nothing derogatory in the term Moscovy, and to be honest I rather like the name because of its medieval historical aspects. The problem is that you and Litwin are using it with a Nazi like 'supremacist' attitude and trying to turn it into a derogatory term.


     
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    Thank you for explanation.

    Only one correction, I said civilization of Maya was extinct. Not people. Also, I may have used wrong term - 'collapsed'. Their civilization was already collapsed, and it's remnants were decaying, with majority of cities abandoned and the people of Maya being severily reduced in numbers.
     
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    Dude please... Did Russian Army make it all the way to France, to the heart of Europe? I actually don't care about what tactic made the French retreat because that's obviously not the point in my post you quoted... And I'm still waiting for that proof you were trying to find !
     
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    Probem being, they are trying to create that term - to virtually cut historic ties between modern Russia and Ukraine. Check the internet, check the Urban dictionary web site - the closest thing to that 'term' is a muscovy duck, bird from North America that has as much to do with Russia as turkey has to do with Turkey.
     
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    Yes, army of Russian Empire eventually entered Paris, but it was two years later, at the end of Sixth Coalition War.

    My point was - to correct your mistake, where you formed it that way, as if russian army won the war by just brute force. So, I gave a wider explanation - do not see what the problem are you having with that?

    And stop calling me 'dude' already, all right? It sounds weird.
     
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    Not often, but they do! Oh no Muscovites", then maybe stick to moskals, vatniks, etc.
     
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    Oh nice pic caption, that looks like actor Ralph Fiennes, from Schindler's list! I am not him, and I am well aware of what Nazism is, where you just use it as a convenience to label anyone who doesn't share the pro russian view of the world!
     
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    You sure can. These are - really existing terms. I sure may report you for deragotory slur! - but at least it is existing slur.
     
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    You need to raise your level of intelligence. There is a state of Russia, there is a state of Mongolia. These are different countries .... However, given the fact that the savage Baltic tribes received writing only 50 years earlier than the Chukchi (the Chukchi have received writing under Stalin), your ignorance are not surprising .... You need to read more, Develop the brain, and Learn geography
     
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    Suuuuuuuuure, riiiiiiiiiiight. It's not because of nazistic sympathies of your government. Oh, wait, riiight, you're playing american. *Ukrainian government.
     
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    No... Respect is shown to STATES in diplomacy, not to diplomats or politicians in person... The head of Turkish state is shown respect in Russia or in the US is not because of his respectful persona, or he's a phenomenal character of some sort but of what he represents, in this case Turkish Republic... So Merkel representing Germany, and she gets the black dog in Russia and a pair of deaf ears in the US :)

    The elections, and what Erdogan demanded about them from the EU does not have anything to do with this. Erdogan personally went to Kremlin to meet with Putin only ten days ago, and I don't remember any legitimate "NO"s were given. In fact, we're going to get some S-400s soon. EU is not happy with patriots taking control over Turkey step by step, and to that we give no single flying sh.t, as other partnerships in the region are more crucial. Let the EU sunk in the deepest depths of the Atlantic while 2017 version of "Tsar Peter the Great" makes his way to the heart of it...
     
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    ...erm... ...Who..?
     
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    There is no USSR. But Russia is. Russia is immortal. Therefore, teach the phrases that I wrote to you. And remember - After every big war, Russia always gets new territories. Now this process is just beginning.

    By the way, you wrote that you visited Magadan in Russia. It's good. You have the opportunity to adapt to the conditions of Magadan. Therefore, when you will be work for the benefit of Russia, it will be a little easier for you than for the rest of the prisoners of war.
     
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    Kazan as far as I know is in the Republic of Tatarstan in the Russian Federation. They have it quite well there from what I gather. Moscow treats the Muslims well... it doesn't want trouble. I believe the Tatars in Crimean also have it well under the Russians ... or at least the honest ones do. I think Russia clamped down on the corrupt enterprises.

    The Tatar language is now being taught in school, but with the sanctions on Crimea they weren't able to better their living conditions... which were deplorable under Kiev. Investments are also coming in from foreign countries, so the situation will change eventually... Poklonskaya sees a great future for Crimea.

    I
     
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