What drives those of Faith to ignore Scientific Facts?

LOLOL .. yeah they do.. Sad IMO.

 

Well it has been when one looks backwards.
Astrology was the great science of antiquity.

And all through the middle ages Ptolemy's scientific model convinced the church that earth was center of the universe.
Not only did that split up the RCC, but it still bring criticism today as if the Bible said that too.

 

These last few atheist/gay/feminist-type bible bashers that still post here will do exactly the same thing as the Church people.

Both refuse make sense of Genesis by recognizing that Modern Science agrees with an In the Beginning now, and calls the same thing he Big Bang.
They will read Gen 1:9 which describes Pangea but insist that just can't be what the text is saying.
You can show them that the 22 names in the Genealogy which links us back to the very first man/ape corresponds with the latest Paleontology of 22 species that links us back to the first man/ape and BOTH will fight tooth and nail to ridicule and deny it.

Go figure...

 

Astrology is not a Science....although now days one could make an argument that because Solar and Cosmic Radiation is greater or less at particular months of the year that a group of people born at and between two dates separated by about 30 days might have Genetic Mutations and Traits specific ONLY to those people born during those 30 days compared to another group of people born at another 30 day period during the year.

As well when one uses the Scientific Method....a concept or Hypothesis which can become a Theory based upon data gathered by using the Scientific Method STAYS a Theory until overwhelming evidence gathered by time or actual PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS are developed from using this Theory.

As an example...EVOLUTION was label a Theory until 1999 when the U.S. Academy of Sciences determined that due to the overwhelming evidence as well as practical applications being created and used by the general population....EVOLUTION WAS DEEMED A FACT.

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On one level... this is partly because we don't want the headache
that comes along with admitting that the information given to near death
experiencer Dr. Richard Eby.... could well be valid.......


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...eby-verifies-old-earth-and-gap-theory.368149/

NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.

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I'm not Christian so this comes from a friend who is a scientist and a practicing To.an Catholic.

Suppose there is a God, according to the Bible, God created the universe in 7 days. Now what if one of God's days was a billion of our years... I mean, are we that arrogant to believe one of our days is equivalent to one of God's.

Evolution vs Creationism: think of evolution as a master sculptor starting with a lump of clay, slowly working itself into the desired shape, until the final masterpiece is complete...And no one says that we are the final form, because as a species, we are highly flawed.

Science is never settled, the coelocanth is not extinct as previously thought, and now there are sightings of the Tasmanian Tiger as well....Nature has a way of showing us just how ignorant and arrogant we are.

 

It's not hard to figure out. They want their religion to be true, and their faith depends on their holy book being totally true. Science contradicts their holy book. Therefore, they have no choice but to ignore science.

 

God of the Gaps. When science contradicts God, reshape him to fit science. Heh.

The only "arrogance" is making us respect your unfounded claims.

 

It's not a claim in any way shape or form, it's meant to stimulate critical thinking which you seem to not be capable of.
The coelocanth is alive and not extinct and the sightings in Tasmania as well as South Australia seem to indicate that the Tasmanian Tiger is alive as well, though currently unsubstantiated.

By the way, did you know that atheism is recognized as a religion...

 

The rabbit hole.

 

So here is the biggest problem I have with evolution...The Earth was supposedly some primordial soup from which evolved a single cell organism. From this organism, all life evolved...S o why don't all creatures share some base DNA sequence that is common to all creatures that can be traced back to that first organism?

 

One of the greatest scientific minds ever said by studying the universe he concluded there was an INTELLIGENCE that dwarfed anything of man's and a SPIRIT that guided the universe. Every time I bring up Einstein's words the athiests do everything they can to undermine and deride. The athiest claims they will believe science, but they don't really.

 

A significant percentage of people who claim to be Atheists......
obviously are not......
Richard Dawkins Ph. D. is clearly lying when he terms himself an Atheist because
this interview proves that he is really an Agnostic.

Once a scientist admits that an alien civilization could well have developed thousands.....
or perhaps even millions of years ago..... and perhaps that civilization may have played a role in human evolution and even our history.........
these are the ideas of an Agnostic..... not an Atheist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL7CCyuXAS4
Richard Dawkins: Aliens Seeded Earth?

 

I'm not sure what living fossils have to do with anything.

Oh. And if atheism is a "religion," then I suppose your atheism towards Zeus and Thor is a "religion."

 

what drives those of no faith to science? I guess it might be inanimate object can't betray one's trust could be the answer. but there's no life in inanimate objects.

so maybe it is experienced betrayal, or miss placed expectations, that would drive people to evidence, because they can make of it anything they want in there own view of what they want the world to be.

 

I'm driven to science because science is the search for truth. When I want my crops to grow, I won't hire a shaman to do a raindance. If I'm sick, I won't eschew the M.D. for the voodoo priestest.

 

The first cells undoubtedly had no DNA.

 

The "anything they want" comment of yours is exactly what science is designed to eliminate.

Major portions of scientific process specifically addresses that problem.

 

What living fossils have to do with this thread is science is never a fact. Science has accepted theories until they are proven wrong. The coelocanth was thought to be extinct millions of years ago, until one was caught off the coast of Africa.
The Earth was at first thought to be flat, then round, when it is an ovoid, longer at the poles than the equator.
How many times has the food pyramid changed in my lifetime? Milk does a body good, now it is bad for the body.

The 70's it was the coming I've age, now it's global warming, climate change.
And I'm not as an atheist, Zeus and Thor may have existed or might still...After all, the legend of the golden fleece is based upon fact. By putting rams hide (fleece) in a moving stream, the hair trapped gold, thus a golden fleece.
So the point is, science by definition is never a settled fact, it is an accepted theory.

 

See if you can explain that one, cause I don't believe you can.

 

I have a graduate degree in an area of cosmology. Don't try to school me on science.

BTW, milk has a lot of sugar added. So yes, grocery store milk is unhealthy. A typical cup of milk has as much sugar as half a can of soda.

And AGW is fact.

 

They said the same thing about the coming ice age in the 70's...AGW is a theory that has yet to be reproduced...The polar ice caps were supposed to be gone by 2015...This is another Y2K, all fear no substance. The NE has had some of the coldest winters on record. Seriously, this AGW religion is a bit out of hand, threatening to prosecute non believers, prove it beyond your conjecture and belief.
The problem is you can't...The computer models are flawed, they rely on data that is constantly tweaked to fit the results they want to show. Why, it's all about money.

 

If the bible were accurate how would we have such widespread genetic variation in 160 generations since eve? mitochondrial dna (as opposed to nuclear dna) is as close as you are going to get to your "base DNA" concept.

 

You are confusing Evolution with Creationism...According to the Bible, God created all the creatures before creating man...The creatures, animals and insects did not evolve from Eve.

As for genetic variations in humans, you are mostly talking about less than a 1% difference between races, which changes height, gender, skin color etc.

 

If the Bible were accurate, it is unlikely we would see as much mitochondrial variation as we have over 160 generations based on what we know, and your percentage is based on all possible theoretical variations and discounts the variations that do exist beyond visible traits.