Denis Voronenkov: former Russian MP who fled to Ukraine shot dead in Kiev

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    LOL...WTF kinda statement is "its unlikely for Russian agents to sneak into Ukraine"?? Right they don't sneak in the INVADE, just like crimea, LDPR, and countless other times over the decades.
     
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    Land belongs to the inhabitants living on it. When someone tries to take it from them, they are stealing ...and that is a crime.

    So tell me, how many Galatian nationalists own land in the Donbas?
     
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    Well the Russians should know a thing or two about stealing, crimea, Bessarabia, Karelia, and not enough galicians like you say, learn to spell and its ukranians, the moskals killed off or deported most of them, hopefully that will change and more ukranians can take back stolen lands.And its not stealing its reclaiming lost territory, hard for you to understand that I see!
     
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    This is a point of view of Ukranian side, which may have nothing to do with reality.
     
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    It is obvious. NATO countries will be destroyed. Hordes of savages have already begun to destroy these countries. In accordance with the laws of karma. And this is only a pathetic beginning. Tens of millions of savages are waiting for good weather for penetration into the EU. Given the impending crisis of unprecedented scale (read about Deutsche Bank, the Commercial Bank and other EU banks), the next stage is mass terror with the transition to civil war. The laws of karma can not be abolished.

    In accordance with the laws of karma, prosperity and success await Russia. This is also obvious. Look at the trends. The US and the EU are getting worse and worse every day. In Russia every day is getting better and better.
     
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    A very accurate example. False justice contains an innocent person in prison. (Everyone knows that Milosevic was officially declared not guilty) And in the end, European murderers kill an innocent person, for fear of exposing their meanness. These despicable deeds of lying European puppets are precisely what form karma, Which awaits them.

    And karma begins to happen. For example, the former prosecutor in the case of Milosevic, Carla del Ponto herself is now under criminal prosecution.
    Laws of karma. You also have your own karma, which you form for example spreading lies.
    As it is written in one famous novel - "a brick without a reason never falls on the head"
    Therefore, you need to be careful - "Anushka has already spilled sunflower oil."
     
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    As opposed to what ?
     
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    Lol, who , how and Why Sralin -koba killed Trotsky?
     
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    As opposed to good Western sources of real news such as the BBC, and the American big 4 and you throw some German and French outlets in as good news sources. RT is no more than a malignant version of the other Kremlin controlled so called news outlets going back to Soviet days.
     
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    There's a movie I saw ...you fit the theme perfectly...it's called One flew over the Cuckoos nest"...you should see it sometime, but there's still hope for you...maybe.
     
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    So when the Soviets shot down the airliner in 83? Approx, was that terrorism, or mistake? If the russian military was operating the Buk, they probably would've discerned between civilian or military, fired anyway, and that can be said is terrorism.
     
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    The Moskaliy like their "g" since they lack the "h" that civilized languages have hence they cone up with "Galicia" when it's Halych or Halychina. Yet you are correct Halych is Ukraine and since Western Ukraine was not under Soviet occupation during the inter war years Ukrainian cutler , language, and feeling was not destroyed as it very nearly was in the East. As you notice the most vile lies and hatred from Russians is vented upon the Halychans because it was the Western Ukrainians who were able to retain the identity and national spirit. Of the enemy, Russians call it nationalism but I call it survival. The Russians always try to smear any ethnic group or nation that they want to destroy by falsely calling anyone who wants to retain their national identity Nazis or fascists. They do / did that to Georgians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Balerus, and Latvians. That is what an evil empire and it's agents does.
     
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    Something like the Soviet empire...what happened to it ..Ninian?
     
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    Yah true, "g"..just like gitler, ganz, must be a speech impediment from birth, or a distant form of mongolism.They can't seem to let go of their "love affair" of Nazis! Well "gitler" and koba were platonic lovers up to 1941..or I should say through their messengers Ribbentrop and Molotov, ironically the divorce papers were served June 22 1941, by "gitler".
     
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    Empire can and eventually do collapse as will your Russian empire. Remember that there was once the mistaken thinking that the Soviet empire was fore ever. I recall a political science professor here in the US the first time I was in college in 1966 who laughed at a term Paper I wrote about the future collapse of the USSR. He as many here in the West talked about the USSR and Russia as interchangeble entities. He ignored the basis for my theory that even then the ethnic Russians constituted only about 54 percent of the population of the USSR. He also laughed at me because I noted that the non Russian and the non Slavic population such as the Moslem areas was growing at a faster rate than the Skavic groups. Remember how the USSR used to love their statistics ? Well with my father's self thought knowledge of the USSR I used their statistics to postulate the theory. No it was not mine alone I read many emigre Ukrainian and Baltic publications because back then that was the only place to get some truth about the USSR.

    That is why Ukrainian and Baltic emigre groups were targeted by the KGB and Soviet propaganda.
     
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    Ukraine was the "weak link" in the former SU, that's why it was targeted so heavy, no different today, as what you see in occupied DPR?
     
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    You compare me with Milos Forman, Jack Nicholson, Christopher Lloyd and other great actors?....I will not argue with you.:applause::applause::applause:

    By the way, are you familiar with the psychiatric experiment of David Rosenhahn?...If not, I will tell you briefly.

    David Rosenkhan was able to identify and prove that doctors-psychiatrists put their diagnoses, adjusting the symptoms of the patient for a certain disease.
    The research group of Rosenkhan (three psychologists, a pediatrician, a psychiatrist, an artist, a housewife and Rosenkhan himself) went to psychiatric hospitals in different states with complaints about auditory hallucinations. These people agreed first to feign the disease, and then, in order to get out of the clinic as soon as possible - tell the doctors that they are all right.
    The psychiatrists of the study participants diagnosed schizophrenia, and one of them had a depressive psychosis, all of them were hospitalized.
    As soon as they were brought to the clinics, the "sick" began to behave normally and persuaded the staff that they no longer heard voices. However, it took an average of 19 days to convince the doctors that they were no longer sick. One of the experimenters spent 52 days in the hospital.
    When Rosenkhan published the results of the study, the world of psychiatry was shocked. Doctors of one of the clinics insisted on repeating the experiment and claimed that there was some unfortunate misunderstanding.
    Rosenkhan agreed to repeat the experiment. It was assumed that the doctors of the psychiatric clinic were to identify the malingerers from among all the patients who came to them for admission.
    Over the next three months, the administration of the clinic was able to identify 41 the malingerers from among them, of 193 patients. Imagine them surprise when it became clear that Rosenkhan Did not send anyone.
    What was the purpose of this experiment? It was formulated in the work of Dr. Rosenkhan himself: "Obviously," he wrote, "that in psychiatric hospitals we can not distinguish between healthy and unhealthy patients."

    But, if the doctors were so obstinate And could not recognize the malingerers, then this could not be said about the patients themselves - that is, about people with darkened intellect, who were in clinics next to the malingerers and watched them.
    From the very beginning of the experiment, real patients suspected that the researchers sent by Rosenkhan were malingerers, while the hospital staff did not notice it. 35 real patients, mentally ill people, could accurately determine that the participants in the experiment - not sick, but only pretend.
    Hence, you always recognize people who are close to you intellectually. Even if they are characters in a feature film.
     
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    Lol, you're jealous...SU collapsed with a stroke of a pen and a handshake, US stands firm.
     
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    Lol, I'm not comparing you to an actor, I'm saying you're cuckoo, which you are, I didn't even finish reading what you post here...it's basically verbal diarrhea!
     
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    I understand. The description of scientific experiments is an impossible task for your intellect. So you did not finish reading it. I am not surprised. :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    But why do you claim that I am a cuckoo? .... However .... do not explain ... only a person with a Medical education will be able to understand Your supposedly "logic".
     
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    You still haven't explained to me how Alaska will be part of Russia again? By force you say? And a jack Nicholson you are not, change your drawers, your wet dream is over!
     
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    We rebuilt it, we reformed it in several independent states, and we officially dissoluted the Union. And what do you know - we are all still there. And not going anywhere - and keeping our history with us.
     
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    I agree with you principle theme but maybe the mongolodism thing could be lefty out. Interesting that my parents used to talked about time in events back then as is "the day the Russians came" or "the day the Germans attacked". My Mom specifically marked tone as "the day the Germans took me away" or " the day the Russians took Tato".
     
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    Ha ha - oiy Moskalska hulera they all want Alaska back. Ha ha!!
    Edit I fixed spelling!
     
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