The Dark Rigidity of Fundamentalist Rural America

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  1. JET3534

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    What exactly is the evidence the Adam and Eve existed?
     
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    Bullcorn. The travel ban is for muslims from 7 nations, not Jews from Israel. You're confused.
     
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    No, Trump's ban is not specific to Muslims. It was designed to impact Muslims most significantly, but we have freedom of religion and that makes it hard for the administration to express its hate.

    Jesus was a criminal dissident and rabble-rouser as far as Israel was concerned.

    We don't have a program that would accept such a person from Israel.
     
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    What does "educated" mean? Does it mean you went to school for a long time and can sit at a desk and solve complicated physics problems, or learned how to manipulate financial documents in order to gain money? Or does it mean you learned from your elders and experience or culinary school how to make flour into baked goods, or to grow a lot of food which feeds a lot of people?

    Education is a process of learning skills and knowledge. What most people who look down on others as being "less educated" really mean is they do not like or understand these other peoples culture and lifestyle choices.
     
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    thing is if the educated liberal (educated to believe what is the question) doesn't believe or accept the rural American's ways or beliefs the rural Americans don't care as long as they may live as they have chosen to, but if the rural Americans don't accept or believe what the educated liberal elitists do or say, and accept what they say as superior to what the rural Americans beliefs because they are educated liberals. then the educated liberal elitists posts OP like this one.

    conservatives in general don't expect the rest of the world to think as they do, but the liberal tries to write laws against any thinking or expression of the same, that isn't what they think. when the conservatives are in power expression against their ways and thinking and the right to so is respected whether they like it or not. when the liberals are in power they see that they have the right to police anything expressed that is against their ways and thinking. actually suppressing citizens right to express opposition thinking for fear that some else might change their mind and agree with the conservatives. liberals are always portraying themselves as victims of conservatives seeking public empathy. liberals always teach to hate the strong and the wealthy as they get stronger and wealthier and those who believe them remain victims of their belief in the liberal agenda.

    take what's going on to day in the US the media portrays the Christian killing Jewish killing Muslim as the victim of racisms in the travel bands issue when they very well know Muslim is not a race, and the nations mentioned are dominated by a religion that kills all other beliefs, therefore doesn't have any citizens from other religions.

    but yet they do this why? because they fear the loss of influence in America and are in support of muslim ways.

    yet on the other hand seek to justify war with Russia and keep them as the enemy in the eyes of the American pulic


    and why you may ask simple OIL Russia has been trying to get its oil to western markets and the US and friends have been protecting middle east's oil markets in the west. OIL OIL OIL funny thing, they have the liberals buying into it hook line and sinker, who'd a thought it could happen, the liberal agenda seeks to keep middle east oil over its own and would go to war with Russia over it. and make no mistake, they will be the first to declare the war as an evil conservative agenda but yet are the first to write regulations and laws against getting oil any other way but the middle east.

    gee I wonder who's money is backing the liberal agenda, and the media. remember now the media believes in the thinking of keep lying until they believe it. as long as they can cut off any other information to the public. Americans don't realize they are in the box already.
     
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    You're confused. Allowing in Islamic terrorists has nothing to do with freedom of religion. Another point of your confusion is Jesus being a rebel rouser. He exposed the corruption in the religious and political elites. The left likes to use Jesus as a poster child, but haven't a clue to what He actually taught.
     
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    You should read the accounts of the trial of Jesus.

    Yes, rabble-rousers expose the corruption of the elites.

    I don't know of anyone using Jesus as a "poster child".
     
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    Trump has yet to get through his first 100 days.

    How many do you think will get immunity?
     
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    The left always uses Jesus as a poster child for socialism.
     
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    By their words, by their actions, an educated liberal is an oxymoron. They may have lots of liberal based info stored in their memory banks, but finding an intelligent, wise liberal, or rather the modern faux liberal, is hard to do. They are stupid in a most fundamental fashion. They disavow, they ignore, human nature that is at least 50 thousand years old, and replace that with a fanciful ideal, that is never achievable, and destroys human societies. The most destructive minds on earth.

    Regardless of your opinion of these people, I would trust their word and depend upon their moral compass more than I would some liberal intellect.
     
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    And after his first 100 days are over, then what? Do you have a plan B besides anthropological expeditions to middle America?
     
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    Some Christian scholars have a deep respect for
    Judaism and believe in the literal fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48.

     
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    It means in respect to Rural Americans that they don't value intellectualism in any form, even among their own. Even among rural American's own people they discriminate heavily against all forms of intellectualism of any kind and this derives completely from their backwards religious fanaticism that 100% defines them in every aspect sadly.


    Also your bogus assertion that the average rural American is a farmer or a rancher or a baker or a small business person is totally that, bogus. Most directly benefit from the government they so hate in numerous forms.
     
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    What is intellectualism?
     
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    Intellectualism is anything that goes against the accepted Christian-fundamentalist mantra of every small town. Naturally that ends up being basically anything and everything having to do with the modern world (which is why most small towns in America are consumed in never-ending legal chaos internally).
     
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    I always get the feeling when I read things like this that its the author that is not listening, rather than their subjects.
     
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    In that usage sir, not to interrupt you claiming I'm not listening, the proper usage is "it's" not "its".

    :)
     
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    There's a lot to be said for small town life. Relaxed, friendly, wholesome, etc. I have no idea what you mean by "consumed in never-ending legal chaos internally".
     
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    I'm more of a formalist than a pedant.... ;)
     
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    Call them what you will, they sure seemed to be able to vote.
     
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    I'm not religious, and I completely trust in the scientific method, but you have to realize there are some similarities in every belief system. Even a scientific secular one.

    In my life I've heard several different big bang descriptions and I've even heard a theory that the present creates the future and the past simultaneously. All put out by agnostic atheist as far as I can tell.

    Humans need stories to make sense of their world/reality/existence. Just because I leave God out doesn't mean I don't believe in a story I can't absolutely prove.
     
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    You make some interesting observations.
    Some of the symptoms you cite are byproducts of sophisticated mind control techniques.

    This happens in non religious settings but, I will only touch on religious fundamentalism.

    The process starts by using fear (the fear factor) to indoctrinate adherents.

    A young child (or adult) is taught that if they "question" or do not believe the tenets of some "holy book" they will be punished. This punishment is no small matter. It is the worst and most horrible thing the human mind can imagine. This person will be mercilessly tortured in the afterlife.

    This person will be horribly tortured - not just for a few days but, for eternity - for ever and ever and ever.

    If the doctrine is ingested this fear gets lodged deep into the subconscious. When the adherent encounters ideas contrary to cult dogma that fear is triggered (often without the adherent even realizing it). The fear comes from the possibility that if their mind wanders down a path of "questioning" certain elements of "the faith" they will be in danger of eternal torture.

    Various defense mechanisms develop such as denial, avoidance, or "demonization of the other" or the shooting messenger. The mental hoops of irrational thought denial of logic and adherent will jump through are almost unlimited.

    Nefarious cult leaders seeking power for themselves will do a rather sneaky trick. Belief in the tenets of some holy book is one thing - belief in some cult leaders interpretation of that book is quite another. The leader has then effectively put himself in the place of "speaking for God".

    If the adherent questions "or does not believe" the prognostications/interpretation of some leader (rather than just tenets of some Holy Book) they will risk eternal torture in the afterlife.

    The cult leader than ramps the fear factor up even further by creating a good vs evil, God vs Devil, black vs white paradigm. Cult doctrine is good - anything that conflicts with cult doctrine is Evil.

    Anyone who questions or does not believe is "under the influence of Satan"

    "This is Spiritual Warfare" "You are with us or against us"
    "Satan is around every corner trying to trick you"

    This part of the the process of "Demonization of the Other" In its extreme form, this type of dehumanization is used to justify killing in the name of God. Killing is justified because these are Satan's minions and this is a global war of Good vs Evil/God vs Devil that is being waged right here, right now.

    The fear factor even further by creating a sense of urgency through an apocalyptic narrative. "The end is coming soon".

    God is going will send his terrible wrath against humanity and we are in the end times. The non believers will be suffer terrible plagues (as if suffering eternal torture in the afterlife is not enough) but, the believers will be whisked away in the "Rapture".

    "You must repent now" = believe every word of cult leader. There is no time to waste. Your earthly life means little. Far more important is to focus on securing your position in the afterlife. You need to act now !









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    Good point. Maybe they need to send even more anthropologists into the deadly wilds of middle America.
     
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    Well it would be better than preachers....
     
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    Excellent. Take a bow. I learned working offshore that there are "uneducated" people who can do anything that needs doing, except complain, maybe. And then there are educated people who seem to do nothing but complain.
     
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