Trump ready to address North Korea nuclear program with or without China

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  1. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

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    Is Donald Trump about to start (or provoke) a nuclear war?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ea-nuclear-program-with-or-without-china.html

    "President Trump has said the United States is ready to act alone against North Korea’s nuclear program if China does not take a tougher stance"

    The only way the US could "act alone against North Korea" is by military means. That means attacking a nuclear armed country. How would North Korea react? Anyone's guess, but it would be reasonable to expect
    - a nuclear tipped missile aimed at US base in S Korea
    - artillery bombarding Seoul

    Frankly, even if Trump is not about to launch a pre-emptive strike against North Korea, his words will certainly be heard in North Korea, and his words alone might make NK think they are about to be attacked. And might themselves pre-emptively attack SK or a US base in SK / Japan.

    IMHO what Trump said - the quote I identified above - is one of the most irresponsible things I can ever recall being uttered by an American president. He has moved from being comical to being scary.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    OMG. Someone sedate him!
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    That's my Trump, let's take em out!!
     
  4. bx4

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    Seriously? Do you think it would be a good idea for Seoul to be flattened with artillery, missiles, bombs etc? For an American military based to be hit with a nuclear weapon?

    Because those are obvious retaliatory steps that a paranoid NK leadership could be expected to take.
     
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    North Korean nukes are a public relations campaign more than anything. They could get a direct hit on Seoul and their artillery would still kill 10 fold.
     
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    I don't disagree with you in terms of their size and ability to deliver them long distances. They probably cannot deliver anything even as big as Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

    But using a nuclear weapon would cross a threshold; a boundary. Something that has not been done in 70 years. I am amazed that even one Trump supporter is happy for Trump to take a position that could result in the delivery of a nuclear warhead.
     
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    I support leaving NK alone. They are not an expansionist state.
     
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    My inside sources here predict that some fat kid is about to get his dick knocked into the dirt.

    About time.
     
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    Although the world will laugh when fat-kid-Trump's dick gets knocked into the dirt, I don't think this is the best way to do it.
     
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    You democrats are too much . You hate Trump so much your rooting for n. Korea . Absolutely disgusting how much Democrats hate America and Americans.
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Do you want to get it over with now or wait until they have ICBMs and can flatten LA, San Francisco, and New York etc?
    Appeasement went so well with hitler right?
     
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    I am not a Democrat.

    I am also not - in any way - rooting for North Korea. The problem with Trump's approach is that his thought process stops at "we need to get tough". He is not intelligent enough to consider the consequences. He is not intelligent enough to foresee how things could go wrong.

    I guess you, on the other hand, love America and Americans so much that you are willing to sacrifice the lives of tens of thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands or possibly even millions) of South Koreans (civilians and military), and the lives of tens of thousands of American military personnel just so Trump can show N Korea who is boss.
     
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    I don't see what else Trump can do other than put NK on notice. Doing nothing isn't an option, I wouldn't think? Hopefully China will use its influence, but meanwhile, would you Dems and Trump-haters prefer that he does nothing except keep his fingers crossed that China will come up with the goods? [​IMG] Any answers?
     
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    Nuclear weopons is not right for anybody in the World.
     
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    Oh stop it , you sound ridiculous . What is Trump's Secretary of Defense 's stand. What's Rex saying?
     
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    Who is shooting rocket in the air? Testing nuclear weapons ? What should the US do? What has China done? What has the UN done? Should we wait till that little nut bag shoots a nuke at someone ?
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Trump is extremely intelligent..
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, right.
     
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    Oh god, somebody put a mirror in the Oval Office to distract Trump for a few months while adults handle the North Korea problem. Trump's involvement can only make things worse.
     
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    Are you daft? We will never beat NK in a conventional war.

    More proof the fever swamp doesn't give a **** about anything but promoting the God Emperor CiC Orange Glow and his ideals, and not America or Americans.
     
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    Please! Get real.

    What are Trump's range of punitive options that are not already in play?

    No political or economic sanctions will work without China's support and help. So, what's on the table?

    Invasion?
    Political assassination?
    Preemptive strikes?
    Air and naval blockade?

    Which of these are you going to try that won't seriously piss China off?

    The problem with "chest beating" is that, eventually, the targets understand your impotence and respond accordingly.
     
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    How about one of these instead...

    Ireland.jpg

    He can practice his "grabbing." Never can tell when a lady PM will come-a-callin.
     
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    Where's the emergency? How many countries did NK invaded? Maybe China's method does work. Never thought of this, huh?

    There's so many things wrong with your line of thinking that I wouldn't know where to begin, if it was in my mind to correct you.
     
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    The hypocrisy...
     
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    I guess it depends on one's own frame of reference...
     
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