FLAT EARTH RANT #4 Did He Do It Again?

Why do you continue to lie so ?

It has been proven to you that you are stating an outright falsehood. Airy did NOT set out to prove the earth's motion and I posted absolute proof of that

 

So the pendulum swings and is unaffected by the earth's motion. It swings and returns but the earth moves under it. So why is it that the earth does not move under a helicopter? Allowing the destination to come to the helicopter? Picture the building the pendulum is attached to, that building is rotating with the earth, how is the pendulum not relative to that movement?

The equator is the fastest moving area on the globe, it rotates at 1,042 mph, whereas you go closer to the poles it rotates slower. So when a plane takes off at the equator it's traveling 1,042 mph, when it get's up to speed you add that speed to the 1,042 mph. Now the motion of the earth is relative with the plane, I understand that. But as the plane approaches the northern or southern pole it should slow down dramatically due to the relative motion of the earth. That doesn't happen.

 

There is no faster moving area on the globe it ALL moves at the same speed.

 

Look at a sphere, when you rotate it, the middle part (equator) is farther around then as you get towards the top or bottom. Are you saying the people that live in those areas have shorter days? They have a smaller distance to travel in 24 hours as those on the equator.

Was that also an attempt to dodge the question?

 

It's true that the equator has higher velocity than the northern and southern areas. All of earth rotates at 360 degrees every 24 hours, but there's differences in velocity relative to the center depending on latitude.

 

Why is that higher and lower velocity not felt in a plane when flying from one to the other? The plane can only go so fast, so at the point of earth's different velocity and the plane entering therein, it should be noticed. Why is it not?

 

The atmosphere of the earth also rotates along the earth. The aircraft velocity is measured relative to the air around it, or to a fixed position on the ground, not relative to the earth's center.

The coriolis effect does have an effect on long range artillery and air travel though. But if you can't understand how the earth is not flat by the multiple simple experiments explained earlier in these threads, I would have a better luck teaching a dog Spanish, than explain the coriolis effect to you in a way you could understand. And I don't even know Spanish.

 

HAHA!!

If the coriolis effect was true, then a helicopter should be able to hover and have the destination come to them. Hovering for one hour would result in 1,042 miles from where the helicopter started. Proof there is no coriolis effect.

Notice the diagram to the right of the description within the link. We don't see that in reality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_force

Nikola Tesla thought of Einstein's theory of relativity as a joke.

Nikola Tesla was smarter than you and I put together. Look at the amount of patents he has. Look at the amount of inventions he has still in use today. Our entire way of life is based off his inventions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nikola_Tesla_patents

 

And as I've explained, the atmosphere moves with the earth, which is why a stationary, hovering helicopter will also appear to be stationary, because it is, relative to the earth and the atmosphere.

Also, Tesla was NOT a flat earther.

 

Yes, and then you claim there is the coriolis effect, which completely contradicts your statement here.

 

No, he wasn't.

And really, do you expect me to explain the coriolis effect to you so you can understand it? Because I doubt there's a teacher in this world good enough to do so.

It's impossible to explain something to someone too dumb to understand it, and too dumb to understand that they do not understand.

 

Actually it's because what your trying to explain....is f()()()ing dumb.

 

"So why is it that the earth does not move under a helicopter? Allowing the destination to come to the helicopter?"
For purposes of physics, air is treated like a fluid, same as water. A helicopter is submerged in a sea of air, which rotates with the Earth. If there was no atmosphere, and the helicopter was a rocket that hovered, I think what you're picturing would be accurate.

"Picture the building the pendulum is attached to, that building is rotating with the earth, how is the pendulum not relative to that movement?"
Excellent question. The momentum of the pendulum keeps it swinging in the same direction, and there's no force acting on it laterally to make it do anything different. The building rotates CCW in the northern hemisphere, that's why the pendulum appears to advance in a CW direction. The pendulum reveals a motion too subtle for your senses to detect.

"But as the plane approaches the northern or southern pole it should slow down dramatically due to the relative motion of the earth."
The airplane, like the helicopter, is submerged in a sea of air. It doesn't experience different lateral forces as it flies north or south.

 

Are you clear now on why Foucault's pendulum shows the Earth rotates on its axis, and the Sun and stars don't orbit us? Did you have any other objections to my planned video? Thx, E.

 

The pendulum is submerged in a sea of air. Can the gravity or air, detect a plane from a pendulum, and only apply it's forces to what it chooses.

 

Gravity pulls the pendulum down, toward the center of the Earth. Momentum keeps the pendulum swinging in a straight line. The Earth's rotation moves the building housing the pendulum, which hangs from a point as frictionless as possible. There are no other forces acting on the pendulum, as far as I know.

"Can the gravity or air, detect a plane from a pendulum, and only apply it's forces to what it chooses." I'm not certain what you mean here by "detect". Forces don't make choices.

 

One more thing, the air provides friction that will slow and eventually stop the pendulum. Have I answered your questions on the pendulum? Do you understand how it works, showing Earth's rotation? If you don't accept that, I have questions for you:

Why does every Foucault pendulum (since 1851) in the northern hemisphere advance clockwise? You've said the Earth is fixed and unmoving, what force is acting on the pendulums?

Why does every Foucault pendulum in the southern hemisphere advance counterclockwise? What force is acting on the pendulums, moving them in the opposite direction of the northern ones?

 

Eric Dubay again? As usual, he makes a host of unfounded claims. He asserts that these pendulums sometimes swing "the wrong way", and if Earth was rotating, they'd swing spontaneously without needing to be set in motion. WHAT??

They always go clockwise in the northern hemisphere, the opposite in the southern. His spontaneous motion claim takes the cake, I had to end his nonsense there. Just about every state in the US has one or more of these, I'm certain they'd be thrilled to hear your take on the laws of physics. Please pay them a visit!

So, getting back to my questions, what is the FE explanation of why Foucault's pendulum advances CW or CCW depending on where it's located?

 

The pendulum can be put into motion in any direction.

Do you really think this plane is flying around a ball, without ever having to bring the nose down, to prevent from flying off into space?

 

How? They're everywhere, do you know of one going the "wrong" way?
How would you set one in motion, to make it do that?
(We're not done with Foucault yet, other topics must wait.)

 

It's simple, you drop the pendulum in the desired motion.

 

Releasing it while adding a side force (which isn't how it's done) would make it swing in an oval. I can't picture how that would effect the direction it advances in, unless the side force was continuously applied.

 

Pendulums are too complicated for jrr to understand.
Ask him why the water always spins in the same direction when going down his plughole.

 

I don't know what to tell you. The pendulum is not proof of a rotating earth, and yet it could be proof. It could also be proof of another force at work, in which is known but not taught. For instance a compass will always point to north, now the opposite direction of the arrow on a compass is always pointing south. So anywhere on the flat earth, the compass will point north and anywhere it also shows where south is. The heliocentric uses this as the bottom of the globe, the flat earth uses this as anywhere in opposite direction of north is south. Side note: the compass must be held FLAT.
So obviously there is something going on within the north. Magnetism would be the most known answer, and within the flat earth this magnetism is part of the mechanics of the heavenly bodies and their motions. So the force that is acting upon the pendulum could very well be that same force that is acting upon the heavenly bodies. We already know that this force is observable with a compass. To say that it is caused by the motion of the earth, with every other experiment (motion of earth) failing to agree is absurd, at least consider all options. However there is obviously something going on.

I think what we are dealing with is, pressure, buoyancy, density, electro-magnetism, frequencies, and vibrations. I don't think gravity is needed at all.