Let's debunk what CO2 does. Let's also explain what it does not do.

Brown bros produce fortified wines too but you would have read the tv report about them having a Tasmanian vineyard" to escape rising temperatures".

 

C3 headlines is a denialist blog. So you are quoting a denialist saying what the hypothesis is instead of actually looking at a genuine scientific source

 

WTF???

 

Oregon institute of Science

Yup!! Robinson is not looney tunes at all!!
According to Bloomberg.com, starting in about 2013 Robinson began collecting "thousands of vials of human urine" which he claims hold "the key to extending the human life span and wresting control of medicine from what he calls the `medical-industrial-government complex`.” As of early 2016, there were 14,000 urine samples stored in freezers at the OISM lab.[2]According to Zachary Mider of Bloomberg, it is "hard to judge the credibility" of Robinson's claims. Although Robinson earned a Ph.D. from the University of California, San Diego in the 1960s, "he hasn’t published peer-reviewed research on diagnostic medicine in decades." In reply Robinson stated, `we’ve completed experiments here, which we could easily publish, but we want to wait until they are perfect.`”[2]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_B._Robinson

OISM as it is known is a VERY well known fraud http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-grandia/the-30000-global-warming_b_243092.html

Now i have debunked this once before and it actually does not matter because there are so many articles debunking this piece of ***** that I could rebut for years

I think the fake name I added is still in there

 

https://scholar.google.com.au/schol...ved=0ahUKEwilg8uE763TAhUU-2MKHe7IDD0QgQMIFzAA

Over 400,000 search results for papers on the indicators of global warming

Knock yourself out

 

Yeah Marohasy
Not a climate scientist

Serial nuisance and favourite to trot out when "balance" is sought in a program. But she has no peer reviewed research in the field

And she has been caught lying

https://www.desmogblog.com/directory/vocabulary/4367

http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/category/global_warming/marohasy/

 

You are right I should have said I can garden year round...WHEN IT RAINS !!!!!

 

I will do just that, Friend.

OMG! Look at the Population Explosion:



Here is the fraudulent Keeling Curve, with a base of 310 ppm and water vapor, THE DOMINANT
GREENHOUSE GAS omitted:


Now this is the same curve with just those two adjustments:



Note that this is TOTAL carbon dioxide, not just the human caused component, which is of course
much smaller.

 

I will focus only on averages.

If you walk into a USA gambling casino, and learn the average person loses money, do you still gamble?

Most humans still gamble. The Casino averages are against them.

I understood the gigantic system we have here on Earth long long ago. I wanted to get Dr. Lindzens view of "average."

I told him I reject average and could he comment on that. His reply is he uses mean and not average. This gives different results.

If we go coast to coast in the USA, can we use the average price of fuels to figure it out? We can not. It will prove wrong.

Why? We can't accurately come up with a miles per gallon that works nationally. Some of the country has steep mountains and some has hundreds of miles of fairly flat desert. Some has hills. Some has plains. I kept track of my fuel economy on one 2500 mile trip and there is no way to average any of this that means anything.

As to the smear I am not in the mainstream of science, tens of thousands of excellent scientists do not believe humans create climate. Now you moved the goal posts to affect climate. But this phenomena needs probably billions of humans to cause not the number on this earth .... all in a localized part of earth. The billions of China vs the hundreds of millions of under 350 million could be a good test of the impact humans have on areas. Has China had remarkable climate changes? We have not in the USA.

Given the sparse number of humans in the Arctic regions of the north, for them to get blamed for the warming ought to make them very angry. They did not do it. If you warmed the Arctic, shame on you.

 

Just so you know, nothing i say is to rattle your cage. When I was a teen, twin boys I hung with loved to catch snakes and bring them home. Even rattle snakes. Snakes often would get upset by the twins and their tails moved quickly so they rattled the cage with the tails. Funny to hear a non venomous snake sound much like a rattle snake.

 

I am stunned the general scientific world is not really tearing down the hockey stick.

I keep pointing out that graphed correctly, your flat line is correct. Not the whacky graph made by Mann.

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...the-hockey-stick-graph-has-been-proven-wrong/

 

A few are tearing down the hockey stick. Michael Mann is suing that British fellow over the subject. It is taking years in the courts.
There are billions of research dollars at stake and the "academics" don't want anybody to spoil their little game of raking in the billions to lie. Government monies dwarf oil companies, but all you hear from the Left is "big greedy oil" and then they go fill up their family car gas tanks and drive to the next protest march or "environmental" wacko get together.

 

There would be huge money to be made by oil companies were green energy really worth the roll of the dice. They could easily simply start up their own green energy.

A poster asked me why scientists getting grants would cheat. Grants are huge. With the Feds, a million dollars is nothing to them. They can blow that off as non noticed. But one scientist getting a million dollars, it can change his or her life.

Honest scientists such as Richard Lindzen and Judith Curry gave that up and are truly honest and well intended human beings. They are trying to get the truth out.

 

I just came across these 3 timelines, enjoy.

Remember, only the orange areas are okay for food production!
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What do they tell you?
They tell me, "I'm right."
Nothing unusual is happening to out climate nor our weather.
It is a matter of History and Science.
Not HERstory and monied, P.C. Science.

I wonder if Global Warming Alarmist Chicken Littles are paid
as anti Trump protesters are? Beyond the whore scientists I mean.


Moi

r > g

Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

Me a denier? This is told to me by the .... get this, by the Left wingers.

I am never called a denier by others.

It has to be politics for the left to be so rude.

Those charts are truth.

Frankly when this all started, due mostly I believe to Al Gore, (he claimed he started the internet too) my eyebrows went up a few notches.

My instant thought was why did the Federal Government of the USA refuse to inform me of this since I had to, by operation of law, take their mandated weather training? They do not simply educate you on say CA weather. They teach the course that covers Earth. We had to know why weather happens. Why climate happens. We had to know that when winds prevail from the west over a continent, right after the first mountains come the dry areas. We had to learn that mountains are like wringers are on the old clothes washing machines (to give you a picture of in one side is wet and out the other is dryer). When you study the mountain ranges, and learn the global wind patterns, you can expect a climate to be easier to figure out. Earth does not change rotation. It seems to plan to rotate the same way for a very long time. This means you can predict climate. Not for a year or two, but in general.

You can for instance take Africa which is never discussed by the warming alarmists.

Get a topographical map and then lay over the winds. What do you find? Predictability.

But there are other factors at work. Earth has some serious changes in global climate and I don't see how in more recent times, Man took over the job of regulating climate.

To blame man is as nuts as to blame fish in the oceans for global climate.

 

Let me make it clear.

I do not enjoy your dialogue one bit. When I cite genuine experts, you slime them. None of them meets your so called standards.

They are all experts.

 

In Science, what matters is replication and whether the predictions are confirmed by reality. It does not matter WHO puts a claim forward, rather the question is whether the evidence confirms it.

 

Sure, over 491,000 grants the public paid for.

Since you claim man can't control the climate, why bother with this nonsense?

I saw the cash register going cha ching with each of those reports. Somebody gets paid to do that.

 

Boloney. People with very expensive axes to grind make up countless excuses and adjustments and spin things to fit their narrative. "WHO" puts claims forward is always challenged by your side. OMG, there is hell to pay if anyone remotely connected ti "greedy big oil" says something. But if he is an "activist," meaning a Leftist, such as Al Gore, well then it's the gospel.

 

Uhh... you might want to pull your head out of there and enjoy a fresh breath, or even read through the thread before you go off half-cocked:

1) We are in an ice age, so of course ocean levels, temperatures and CO2 levels are near the bottom of their natural range.
2) Warmth and rising CO2 levels are to be welcomed, not feared, because,
3) CO2 is how life is stored between warm earth conditions, when life flourishes on the planet.
4) The "runaway" warming scenario is utter horseshit, the models assume positive feedback loops when the hard evidence points to negative feedback loops (dampening effects).
5) Not only will we never see a "runaway warming scenario", we probably won't even see the end of this ice age, because of the current continental configuration.

 

Uhh... you might want to pull your head out of there and enjoy a fresh breath, or even read through the thread before you go off half-cocked:

1) We are in an ice age, so of course ocean levels, temperatures and CO2 levels are near the bottom of their natural range.
2) Warmth and rising CO2 levels are to be welcomed, not feared, because,
3) CO2 is how life is stored between warm earth conditions, when life flourishes on the planet.
4) The "runaway" warming scenario is utter horseshit, the models assume positive feedback loops when the hard evidence points to negative feedback loops (dampening effects).
5) Not only will we never see a "runaway warming scenario", we probably won't even see the end of this ice age, because of the current continental configuration.

 

What is listed in the wild claims is that if you buy motor fuels, you will never be accused of spinning climate. This excuses the lame reports by so called scientists who blame humans for climate. Dr. Curry committed the unforgivable sin of actually for a fee, provide a weather report. First time I heard a weather report makes you a pig who works for big oil. Weather???????????????????? Come on. Weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean, get out of here. Her weather report does not put her into the pocket of big oil.

I urge them to commit to their belief by saying man controls climate. I don't like dog and pony shows where all they admit is to some affect. Either you control climate or you do not.

To claim you affect means you have concrete proof you actually affect.

I have for instance produced a solid math formula used to figure this out. The formula declares man is not behind this dastardly deed. I am not out to change other human's lives. If they want to eat crude, who am I to stop them. It is not my affair. But for them to demand I change my life to suit their politics is more than I intend to bear.

 

More Bull$hit from Robert. Remember, this is the guy who said...

He says he won't read stuff that is not scientific papers...
He says he won't read stuff that is not properly referenced...
Yet, he posts a YouTube video from these guys...
http://climateconference.heartland.org/
...THE HEARTLAND INSTITUTE!

In any case, let's see the truth about these 31,487 scientists
(my emphases)
https://skepticalscience.com/OISM-Petition-Project.htm

Holy Crapoly Batman - 0.3 per cent

This is just another lame attempt by Robert the Denier to convince himself of the virtues of his quest.

 

More nonsense from the Heartland Institute.

 

Folks, please forgive me. i refuse to post to forum trolls.