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If There is No God, is Murder Wrong? (a Reply to Dennis Prager)

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Durandal, Apr 19, 2017.

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    By Michael Shermer, famous skeptic and atheist, and like me a former Christian.

     
    Durandal, Apr 19, 2017
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    Yeah, murder is still wrong (and dear god do I hate prager)
     
    Chrome, Apr 19, 2017
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    Didn't bother with the Squermer video, but the answer to the title question is obviously in the negative, since without God there is no right, and without right there is no wrong.
     
    yguy, Apr 19, 2017
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    That is completely nutty
     
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  5. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    I think this is the answer..

    No, if their is no god then murder is not wrong imo..
     
    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS, Apr 19, 2017
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    Where do you guys get the idea that without god there can't be any right?
     
    Questerr, Apr 19, 2017
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    That is simply false logic, since the concept of god is a fabrication.
    The prime basis for right and wrong goes to the golden rule - which, by the way, is in nearly all religions.
    How many millions have died as a result of god? Untold millions.
    In most wars, god is on both sides.
     
    VietVet, Apr 19, 2017
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  8. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    If their is no god, then why not? Other than man made consequences..

    You and some guy mine a bunch of gold out in the middle of nowhere why not kill him and take it all for yourself? Why not?
     
    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS, Apr 19, 2017
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    Because that is what evil people do. I guess you are evil and need a bogeyman to scare you into being good
     
    Vegas giants, Apr 19, 2017
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Without god their is no such thing as evil, lol..
     
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    That is the most evil thought possible. Lol
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    You go ahead and think your way and I'll continue to think my way..

    Without "god" their is no wrong or evil..
    May as well kill to benefit yourself..
     
    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS, Apr 19, 2017
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    You are free to be as evil as you wish....until we catch you
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Nah, I believe in god so I do not kill..
     
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    Fine with me if you need a boogeyman ......fine with me
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    What does "evil" even mean in the absence of god?
     
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    Ask your boogeyman. I am a grownup that knows right from wrong
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Where did you learn this "right from wrong"?
     
    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS, Apr 19, 2017
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    My mommy and daddy. No boogeyman needed
     
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    Were they and their parents atheists?

    Why is anything right or wrong at all? Just because you think or say it is?
     
    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS, Apr 19, 2017
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    We figured it out all by ourselves. I don't need a boogeyman to figure it out for me. But then I am a grownup
     
    Vegas giants, Apr 19, 2017
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    So it's something you just made up?
     
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    Simple logic. But you have your little book to figure it out for you. And remember shellfish is an abomination. Lol
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    What book?
    I think you make no decent argument against my case whatsoever...
     
    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS, Apr 19, 2017
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    How could anyone figure out murder is illogical without a boogeyman to tell them it is? Lol
     
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