Britain Refuses Abbas’ Demand for Apology Over 1917 Balfour Declaration

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  1. notme

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    In #7 you claimed it was a Roman invention
    In #17 you backpeddle on your claim.

    Why? The Palestinians are still the original inhabitants of that area who mingled with who ever passed by.
    You can't say the same about Ariel Scheinermann, who changed it's name to Sharon.
     
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    Palaios, not pale-. Paleo is English.

    Source for stine-stone? Don't forget that it has to be an old Greek word from around the fifth century BC.

    If this kind of arguments will be used by Abbas in a court of law against the Balfour declaration, the proceedings will be pure stand-up comedy.

    Do you really think that Greeks in the fifth century BC knew about the new stone age aka the neolithic and also knew and cared when was the Jewish people born? If you want to know what the name Syria-Palaestina meant (please don't tell me that Syria was the ancient Greek for Assad...) you have to search the info available to the fifth century BC Greeks, not the info available to us today. You also have to take into account the enormous linguistic and cultural influences of other peoples of the Mediterranean Basin on ancient Greeks. Good luck.
     
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    They called Philistines - Philistines back when those ppl existed and that was only at Gaza strip of today, then Bible also mentions them ofc, but the Arabs are not Philistines those ppl got extinct even before the Greeks got here,

    In any case that's not the same as calling the whole land "Palestine". the Romand did do that.
     
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    I explained the diffrence, the Romans renamed it long after that ppl got extinct, please feel free to give evidance for the existance of that nation during Roman time like you can for Jews.

    Ariel Sharon has a Jewish heritage and the Arabs - an Arab heritage, the only time a Jewish heritage and an Arab one got challanged - is after they lost the war so that's hardly an objective criticism, sour losers more like it.
     
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    What year should we go back to, if we are "returning stolen land"? We need to know this, so we can figure out if France belongs to the Germans or the Romans.

    This whole concept is silly, imo.
     
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    The Romans and the Greeks before them called the whole land Philistina.

    PHIL is Greek for "friends".

    The Palestinians are originally Greeks from the return after the Trojan War -- aka in history as The Sea Peoples.
     
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    France belongs to the Kelts.

    The Germans stole the land of Francia from the Kelts who were there first.

    The Franks are a branch of the Germanians.

    Before the Kelts got there the land of Francia belonged to the Neanderthals.

    The Kelts ate them.
     
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    Wrong.

    The Romans merely transliterated PALESHTINA from Egyptian to Latin.

    The Greeks called it PHILISTINA. The capitol was JOPPA a Greek seaport.
     
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    Original source is ancient GREEK !!!

    The Greeks were there first.
     
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    Sad
     
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    @Sallyally it's true I would never lie to you !!!

    :D
     
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  12. Tijuana

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    If we return the US to the natives, which tribe do we give which portions of it to, since they had their own wars and such before we came here?
     
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    The Native Amer Indians get subsidies -- free money.

    I have two nieces from my sister's hubby who was (he died) Injun.

    They get free money every month for being 50%.
     
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    You are missing my point. My point is that any discussions of returning any lands to those who held them a hundred years ago, is nonsense, since they usually belonged to someone before them, and before them, etc.
     
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    NO way Beavis.

    Mexico should be returned to the Azteka.

    Or else give them free money.

    :D
     
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    Just untrue. The Egyptians named it like that. The ancient Egyptian era went over into the Roman era. So it seems obvious how that name stuck around.

    That Scheinermann has zero Israeli heritage. While those Arabs have a heritage that goes back before they became Arab.
     
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    Did you know, Yessir Arafat had zero Palestinian heritage?
     
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    Since his father was born in Gaza-city, and his mother from Jerusalem.... seems you're talking nonsense.
     
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    Indeed, he was just born in Egypt :)
     
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    Still is full with Palestinian heritage, because of both of his parents.
    Can't be said about Ariel Scheinermann.
     
  21. Dutch

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    Palestinian heritage cannot be questioned. They were there first!

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    Don't be butthurt because you entered the wrong example.
     
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    I'm just having fun, pal. Lighten up :)
     
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    ' Palestine ' is clearly rooted in ' Old land '. That's neither here nor there though. The point is that there were no neolithic Jews. Any ' Jewish ' claim to Palestine on the grounds of being its first inhabitants are utterly stupid.
    So that's one neoZionist fabrication straight out of the window.
     
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    Thanks, I suspect even fewer people have heard of Britain's "McMahon Agreement" (1915) that both predated Balfour and explicitly promised to give Palestine to the Arabs for their aid in fighting the Ottoman Turks during WW 1.
     
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