UNESCO Passes Resolution Critical of Israeli Conduct in Jerusalem and Gaza

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    What 'principle'? Shooting at a guy in a small boat because it floated a few meters outside a zone is 'justified'? What sort of principle is that? Your pathetically inept IDF are whiny cowards; that's why they have to use children as human shields, so obviously an adult fishing in a small boat was another clear and present threat.
     
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    The principle of stopping "fishermen" that cross the border, I dont know what happened in that specific boat maybe the soldier shot him by mistake or out of cruelty and maybe the Pal went for his gun, in a 100 years of fued Im not going to judge right or wrong according to specific cases. we saw many cases of brain washed kids attacking soldiers with little chance of surviving that attack, Im not surprised by anything they do.
     
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    The Warsaw Jews had little chance of surviving, but they also fought their occupiers who viewed them as 'terrorists'. Why should the Palestinians be thought of as any different? Let's talk about 'principles' again, shall we?
     
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    The origin and nature of the fued is diffrent ofc, but to talk about nowdays, the Palestinians are not just fighting for indipendance but on dominance, their demands (Hamas to be specific) are to cancel Israeli dominance within Israel and create all Arab country outside of it and for that goal they are willing to sacrifice everything including their children - ofc Im not talking about all Palestinians and perhaps not even most of them, but they are what the militant Hamas based on.
    Warsaw Jews had no political goals at all, they had no demands for indipendanmce, no country, no borders, the idea of it is ridicolous, a Ghetto leader making demands of the Nazi's to spilt their cities and make room for Jewish country. they fought because they rathered die fighting than of hunger, they also hoped that at least a few will manage to flee and live on, on contrst Hamas would rather those few would blow themselves in busses to kill more Israelis.

    See the diffrence yet ?
     
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    Jews have deliberately made a two-state solution impossible in Palestine over the past 50 years.
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    "The radical Israeli settlers in the West Bank city of Hebron present what is certainly a candidate for being the ugliest face of Israel’s creeping annexation of the West Bank. And, the expansion of settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem has reached a point that renders the so-called Two State Solution an impossibility."

    https://consortiumnews.com/2016/04/19/how-israel-killed-the-two-state-solution/

    There are roughly equal numbers of Jews and non-Jews living in Palestine today.

    The solution appears to be One State for Two People unless Israeli Jews prefer an apartheid state?
     
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    The Palestinians are fighting for "dominance"? That's rich.
     
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    they sure aint fighting for equality and tolerance
     
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    Most Gazans weren't born there.. They have been forced out of the West Bank or the Negev.
     
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    prove it,
     
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    Well I'm gussing many Jews in the WB (settlers) would prefer an Aparthied over withdrawal and I agree they made the situation much more difficult, however I never got one reasonable solution from the Palestinian front on how to deal with Hamas, seems to me both made it very hard to work out, till I get a reasonable idea on Hamas - I wont trouble myself with settlers.
     
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    Hamas does, the PLO is either too weak to stand up to them or it isnt intersted.
     
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    NeoZionists mouth division of Palestine by default. We see you. Go home.
     
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    Your posts give me a headache, moon :wall:

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    wrong

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    Not true.

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...-territorial-equivalent-of-west-bank-1.393484

    The settlement of Hebron has been built in the 16th century on purchased land, so please spare us the whining about "creeping annexation".
     
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    Gaza was philistine. Read Samson.
     
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    Since your initial deception was proven false, you are trying to sell a different lie.

    Now you are throwing out terms like "Fascism", lets compare government involvement in the lives of Israeli citizens compared to Muslim-controlled countries.

    Zero credibility!
     
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    Why not revisit an old idea?

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.540551

    "An Israeli-Palestinian Federation Is Still the Way
    The old dream of a Semitic union still has a chance - a political and economic union similar to the EU."
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.540551

    Equal numbers of Semites currently live in Israel/Palestine.
    One Semite; one vote?
    One State.
    Democracy will take care of Hamas and the settlers.
     
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    We're not living in the 16th century.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/07/31/hebron-the-occupations-ugly-face/

    "Hebron’s old city looks like an actual ghost town. Thick pigtails of razor wire block the corridors that line Shuhada Street. The metal doors of over 2,000 shops, which together once constituted a lively Arab market, have been welded shut. Part of a Palestinian market that already relies heavily on international aid and is essentially held captive by the military occupation, Hebron’s economy plummeted as a result of the closures.

    "Hebron has never been included in Israeli territory in any potential two-state solution, but the street is lined with Israeli flags.

    "Hebron is fully segregated. Without an IDF permit, Palestinians are not allowed on Shuhada Street.

    "They are rarely allotted permits, and the children who live in the old city have to cut through a graveyard to get to school each day. Palestinians have to walk on narrow pathways in the old city and cut through overgrown lots, though Israeli settlers are allotted almost complete freedom of movement."

    Whatever purchases Jews made in Hebron five hundred years ago, they have been stealing land and water in there and across Palestine for the last 70 years.
     
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    Srsly? Every pro-Palestinian out there claims that Arabs have the right to the land of Israel because they have been here for centuries (unproven premise, by the way). What's sauce for the centuries old Arab goose must be sauce for the five centuries old Jewish gander.

    [QUOTE="georgephillip, post: 1067441943, member: 62666"
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/07/31/hebron-the-occupations-ugly-face/

    "Hebron’s old city looks like an actual ghost town. Thick pigtails of razor wire block the corridors that line Shuhada Street. The metal doors of over 2,000 shops, which together once constituted a lively Arab market, have been welded shut. Part of a Palestinian market that already relies heavily on international aid and is essentially held captive by the military occupation, Hebron’s economy plummeted as a result of the closures.

    "Hebron has never been included in Israeli territory in any potential two-state solution, but the street is lined with Israeli flags.

    "Hebron is fully segregated. Without an IDF permit, Palestinians are not allowed on Shuhada Street.
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    Hebron is not segregated enough, and the situation is only going to get worse as long as atrocities like this happen:
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    This is not the first terrorist attack against Jews in and near Kiryat Arba. There's a good reason why the settlement is well guarded. I don't care about closed shops and welded doors as long as the other side doesn't care about Jewish lives.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    Think of them as opportunities to re-present your deceits and misinformation.
     
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    It's Palestine now- as is the West Bank.
     
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    Hebron was an Arab town until 1500.. Some Jews arrived from Spain and moved in without incident.
     
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    West Bank should be written west bank- it is nothing more than geographical identification of the delta of river Jordan. Perhaps, you had Judaea and Samaria in mind? :D
     
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