The chilling resemblance between ISIS indoctrination and Eddie Eagle

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  1. TOG 6

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    VG can claim my original statement is "False" all he wants.... except I spent the better part of a decade working in the field and being intimately involved in the day-to-day processing of the background check system. In short, I know what I'm talking about and he.... doesn't.
     
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    I await your evidence
     
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    Yeah I'll take your word for it. LOL
     
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    Oh I see. Retail sales have nothing to do with retail establishments. Is that what you are saying? Your version of retail sales is about price point.
    Gotcha.
     
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    You win chuck. You made your point about the word retail. Good for you. Now can criminals buy guns for the same price as law abiding people in private sales?
     
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    I'm just trying to keep you honest. Criminals can't buy retail and you know it.
     
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    No way of knowing. Some criminals can steal a bunch of weapons, and sell them at much lower prices because there's no loss, and they can quickly distribute before LEOs/ATF catches wind. I believe it's called "peddling lead" or something like that.
     
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    Was my question invisible to you? LOL
     
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    Nope it isn't.

    But I understand how easily you are confused or your inability to tell the truth.

    I tend to lean to the latter.
     
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    That would be why they love to go to gun shows where people like you have no problems selling firearms to complete strangers without a background check.
     
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    Why pay retail when they can buy at a gun show and not have to go through a background check?

    Or buy from people who don't mind advertising on the Nickle Ads?
     
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    Why?
     
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    It is. You made a specific statement based on nothing but general demographics.
    If your statement was sound, so was his, and so was mine.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    Are you not familiar with gun show attendance?

    Here's a thought: I prove 15,000 is not unusual and you apologize and admit you are wrong.

    I'll order a sheet cake and ice cream and pointy hats.
     
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    Why do you believe sales gun shows are not governed by the same laws as gun sales everywhere else?
     
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    The attendance to gun shows isn't the issue; your unsound application of general demographics to the attendees is.
     
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    I guess you forgot your story has you loaning him the guns past the allowed limit.

    You have already stated YOU broke the law.

    And insisted I should describe how anyone could enforce it.

    And I did.

    And you whined and cried and moved the goalposts.

    Don't set up these hypothetical situations if you are going to act like a baby when I prove what you insist cannot be proved.
     
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    And of course after moving the goalposts, you create the straw man.

    The state prosecutor would be most interested in how the criminal got the firearm(s) to do his crime.

    I did not say the state prosecutor would reduce it to 2nd degree, this is something you made.

    I said take the death sentence off the table.

    That would make you a liar, would it not?

    You want to play the game, don't change the rules when the game does not go your way, honey.
     
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    According to a U of Chicago study, most criminals buy guns from people they know--not anonymous strangers at gun shows. It's common sense. If I were a criminal, the second to last place I'd try to buy a gun is at a gun show. Most have cops present, both as security and as customers. In addition, it's a place with a lot of people (witnesses). Why would you buy a gun in front of witnesses if you were a criminal?

    In a survey of almost 100 detainees in the Cook County Jail, few said they get firearms at gun shows or through the Internet, said Harold Pollack, co-director of the crime lab. They also said they don’t normally steal guns or buy them at a licensed store.

    “Some of the pathways people are concerned about don’t seem so dominant,” Pollack said.

    Most of the inmates said they had a gun within six months of getting locked up. And most said they got the weapons through personal connections because they feared getting caught in a law-enforcement sting or being robbed by a stranger.

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/survey-crooks-get-guns-from-pals-dont-keep-them-long/
     
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    They would be foolish to buy them at gun shows--too many witnesses, and at least at the ones I've been to, cops have been at the entrances/exits. Criminals don't buy guns at gun shows. They buy them on the streets or get their non-criminal record friends/families to buy them.
     
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    Private sales aren't retail. All the armlist ads I've seen required the sale to go through FFL dealers.
     
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    Sure. Traffic laws reduce traffic accidents because more people obey them.
     
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    Many armslist say in the ad no BCG required. Check the private sales box
     

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