An inconvenient truth

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  1. Vegas giants

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    Uh....a black man ran this country for 8 years. Lol
     
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    Prove it
     
  3. Esau

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    whites tried to wipe out blacks in haiti yes, never heard of the haitian revolution ?!
     
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    That was when blacks genocided whites; not the other way round, including any attempts.
     
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    only because whites tried to use blacks as free labour in chains.
     
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    Slavery and imperialism was the norm; everyone used slaves and everybody used colonialism to expand their power. None of these phenomenons were ever exclusively white.
     
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    How is Haiti over two centuries later?
     
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    Not good. They do great when they get here though
     
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    Is this universally speaking or just from an Amerocentric perspective?

    I, for once, actually welcome every individuals right to segregate himself from majority society and create his own "ethnically/racially pure" community if he so wishes. When all comes around, this is already being done today, to some extent.

    I believe that people feel safest around people who share their culture and valurs and thus black people would, generally, be safer around other black people.
     
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    Racial genetic differences aren't limited to melanin. Are you suggesting albino blacks pass for Caucasian whites or have higher IQ than other blacks because society treats them differently?

    You supported nothing you claimed, and misconstrued the link I provided. IQ is largely genetic, and the evidence points to a genetic basis for the black-white IQ gap. I've debated the issue here for years, so have probably seen and addressed every argument you can imagine. I'm curious why you don't support your claims first. I'll respond if your post contains anything of substance.
     
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    And to be clear Asians should be given the highest preference in the US for jobs requiring a high IQ. Right?
     
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    I think immigration should be race based, since the nation was founded by and for whites. But yes, Northeast Asians under meritocratic system would be given greater preference than whites. Do you have any data how well Haitians and their descendants do in the US?
     
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    I did not mention immigration. I said preference for jobs. So preference for admission to any college and preference for admission to any company that requires skilled work
     
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    So yes, Northeast Asians should outperform whites. What's your point other than changing the subject and ignoring my question about Haitian achievement in the US.
     
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    Why can't you be consistent in your argument? If Asians have higher IQ's why are we not giving them a preference in everything requiring a high IQ?
     
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    I knew,
     
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    nonesense. of course they were exclusively white. denial isnt a river in africa pal
     
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    The Arabs had tons of slaves and colonalised half of the world and the same goes for the Ottomans. Meanwhile the giant Amerindian civilisations and the Egyptian haydays were all built with the help of slaves. Stronger groups colonialised the weaker groups and that has been the case throughout all of mankind. African slave-traders sold slaves to Europeans etc etc.

    You clearly have not read history.
     
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    Co-signed.

    The idea that slavery and imperialism was monopolised by whites betrays a deep ignorance of history. It's basically what people think if they haven't really looked into it and just relied on primary school teachers.
     
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    clearly you havent read enough history as the slave industry of the american industrial "revolution" was the one and only time that slavery was purely based on skin colour where being black was all you needed to be. the whites justified this by deliberately misinterpreting bible passages where it says that blacks are to be servants for eternity because they sinned. of course we now know, since the people can now access biblical scripture that this passage doesnt actually exist. it does have something similar but it doesnt say black it says canaan. it doesnt even matter who sinned because all of the israelites were black anyway
     
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    nonesense. saying otherwise shows a willful ignorance of history as we should all know by now that whites are the only ppl to practice chattel slavery, a most horrific form of slavery but lets sweep the carpet under the dust, dont want our empire to go bankrupt huh huh
     
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    Arabs routinely castrated African slaves my friend, supposedly because of some superstitious fear of their sexual prowess; most men died right then and there. Going East as a slave wasn't a walk in the park, and the slaves weren't all African either, decent amount of them were Europeans. Maybe 1 - 1.5 mill across North Africa and the Middle East -- that seems to be the more obvious omission from the school books. Slavery was more of a global institution which persisted for tens of thousands of years in a variety of forms.

    Don't think anyone is sweeping it under the carpet... I mean you struggle not to hear of the transatlantic slave trade by the time you're say, 6 years old.

    Speaking of modern times what might be more of a cover up is Mauritania, which supposedly houses around 500,000 black slaves today, under Arab tutelage. No one seems to give two f*cks about that, because it kind of goes against the narrative that the only people capable of bad behaviour are pale.
     
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    the old chestnut, when white slavery is brought up, mention arab slavery. way to deflect son but you missing one important thing. the inconvenient truth, the person being enslaved here. argue all you like about who is the worse, arab or european, until you are blue in the face but you cannot deny that the white man is the only one guilty of having a race based slave industry that categorically had blacks and only blacks as the slave.
    we are not talking about the arab slave trade though are we, because we are not in arabia, we are in Europe/america/thewest, so here we talk about european slave trade FIRST! THEN, when we have dealt with that, taken responsibility, paid compensation etc THEN we can talk about what happend in ARABIA. I can talk about Arabia but you cant until you have accepted that chattel slavery and race based industrial slavery was unique to the white man culture.

    Now...stop defelcting
     

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