Why Do We Refrigerate Our Eggs and Europeans Don't?

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  1. Thingamabob

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    Yeah... That's actually when I got taught how to hold a knife and fork...
     
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    You didn't notice it because Americans bury everything under 2 liters of ketchup .... including eggs.
     
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    When you wash eggs it is supposed to be with water at room temp, not hot or lukewarm or cold.

    This washes all the chicken sh!t off them. All animals sh!t and all sh!t has bacteria in it because the lower G/I tract of all animals harbors bacteria.

    If you then refrigerate the eggs they keep longer, because it slows down the decay of the proteins in the eggs, which is essentially all protein.
     
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    Welll..................
    I remember stocking on up crates of soda and.......... Oven food and eating out a lot and..... snacks.
    I noticed, you could buy cigarettes where the food is, in PA, but not alcohol. In the UK, cigarettes are sold in the supermarket in a kiosk often next to customer services and returns, that sells lottery tickets too.
    It's also like an express 3 items or less line for the supermarket there, you ask for the cigarette, and they give it you, rather than taking it off the shelf yourself.
    I think the same goes for Amsterdam and this duty free shop in Belgium I've passed through.
     
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    When you hold a knife in your left hand you hold it like an ice pick and you use this to ward off kicks and punches.

    When you hold a knife in your right hand you hold it like a pool cue. This is the knife hand you will lunge with to stab the face, the eyes, the throat, or the chest with.

    Ergo you always need 2 knives with you, and the stabbing dagger needs to be longer.

    This presumes that you are right handed. If left handed then reverse the two grips.
     
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    Yah these lotteries are all a voluntary tax on idiots.
     
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    Either way eggs taste fine.
     
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    Cigarettes in Sweden are found at the check-out. You can only purchase alcohol (I'm not talking about that weak stuff) in the monopoly just as in Canada as well. But just across the bridge in Copenhagen (anywhere in Denmark) you can buy the hard stuff just about anywhere at all. When the Swedish Crown was strong and the Danish Crown weak you'd find Swedish drunks littered all over the docks in Copenhagen!
     
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    I forget why we don't bleach our eggs white in the UK.
    Probably forget why the US does.

    I forget which one's meant to be better lol
    Why? lol
     
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    Europeans tend to shop every day on their way home from work for dinner/supper and for breakfast/lunch the next day.

    Americans tend to shop for a week at a time.

    That's why it makes sense for Americans to put their eggs in the fridge -- so they will last longer.
     
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    Bleaching kills the bacteria on the shell from the chicken sh!t. See supra re the bacteria.
     
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    Everyone hates the Belgians !!
     
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    ..... but best soft boiled or poached. The white part of the egg is nothing to shout about either hard or runny but the yoke really tastes wonderful if it isn't cooked 'hard'.
     
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    I don't!
     
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    All of you Fokkers who hold your forks curved down are just imitating fat old Queen Victoria.

    If you are going to do everything she did then you need to wear a black dress every day too.

    That's because Prince Andrew died from syphilis for boinking whores out in town.
     
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    The UK your business needs to have
    • Alcohol license - You get this, you can sell alcohol.
    • Tobacco license - You can sell tobacco.
    A place of retail must have these licenses before it is allowed to sell these things..
    These business licenses are granted by the local authorities.
    The local authorities is local government, like the borough council.
    These issue all your business licenses for business in the borough, so, if you want to open 24 hours; you need to apply for a license, you want to open late nights? apply for a license. Want to sell lottery tickets? Apply for the license from the lottery commission or something. You want to take bets?, become a bookie? brothel? casino, sex shop (porno), adult film studio - you get a license to trade. - You want to open for more than 6 hours on a Sunday or bank holidays, or give somebody a tattoo... get a license.
     
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    There is the orginal specific reason dating back before the current reasons. In fact, some European countries outlaw eggs being refrigerated before being sold. Here is why:

    An egg, if not refrigerated, will not spoil for a very long time as the egg is a living organism - meaning natural defenses against bacteria, virus and so forth. When refrigerated, the egg "dies," so will spoil very quickly. Since many people did not have/can not afford a refrigerator it was made illegal for anyone along the sales path to refrigerate an egg. How would a consumer know if an egg had been refrigerated at some point earlier unless no eggs could be refrigerated.

    However, if you do not refrigerate an egg, it may continue to incubate, meaning when you do open it you can have a partially formed chick in it - which is a delicacy in some parts of the world, but not Europe.That is the reason people want to refrigerate eggs. In short, refrigerating eggs is not to keep them fresh longer, it is to "kill" the egg to keep it from continuing to develop, but then refrigerated needed to slow spoilage.

    Want to store a raw egg for 2 years with no refrigeration? Right after being latched just pack it in a wet lime brine (the mineral, not lime juice). You can get 6 months by storing eggs is wet salt brine. It can even be cold salt or lime brine to stop the egg incubating.
     
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    You mean Prince Albert. Prince Andrew is Prince Charles's middle brother ( and he was know for boinging everything that moved, BTW). Prince Albert was Queen Victoria's husband.
     
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    Totally wrong on your biology. The great majority of eggs we get in the U.S. are unfertilized, meaning they are not living things and won't become chicks no matter what you do to them. Every once in a while (or so I've heard), a fertilized egg gets into the system, but I haven't seen it in my 51 years, and for the past few years, I've eaten at minimum about 500 eggs a year. (2 for breakfast 5 days a week).
     
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    If he had used his utensil properly, he might still be alive today.
     
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    Pardon me, Sonny Jim, but the 'fourchette' (fork) is French, not English. Proper table manners originated in France, not England. The reason the 'fourchette' has prongs is because it is designed to impale food in order to bring it to your mouth, rather than sticking your face into the plate and gnawing. You SHOULD NOT turn the prongs upwards. Scooping food is the job of the 'cuillère' (spoon).
     
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    We also need licenses to trade in certain items - but it's much simpler here. We just don't issue them.
     
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    1888 - 1988 = 100 years.

    I don't think so.
     
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    Methuselah lived to be like 9 times that. Never underestimate the effect of good hygiene.
     

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