Christians — have you been deceived?

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  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Sure. It's his message not his appearance that's important.
     
  2. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for sharing your opinion on what is needed here. I disagree with it. I take it you have nothing of relevance to add to the discussion. Quite the shock.
     
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    It was important enough that the image had to be tailor made to fit the European people. They would have likely rejected it, otherwise.
     
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    Exactly. The primary teaching of Jesus is the golden rule. It is a very simple teaching. However it is very difficult to do a good job of following it.

    A Muslim, Jew, Atheist, etc. who makes a sincere attempt to do so, is a much better follower of Jesus than a person who claims to be a Christian but doesn't make such an attempt.
     
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    This is patently untrue. Study after study have been done to disprove this idea. Again, why do African-Americans score more highly on those tests than Africans?

    Being genetically European isn't a prerequisite to being a Westerner. South Koreans and the Japanese are highly (if not totally) Westernized. American Indians (as in, from India) are highly Westernized and flourish in Western countries.

    You're right, the refugees from the Middle East are not Westerners, they're far from it. They also make up AT MOST 10% of those populations. Those are the more extreme cases.

    That's not "blotting out."

    It is true, and why are you suddenly now accepting the reality of a cultural component?

    Radical individualism HAS been part of the human experience for the last several centuries in places like the US. It has never been perfect, but it's also created the greatest nation the world has ever seen.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you discount scientific research simply due to the possible ethnicity of the scientist??

    that's pure ignorant bigotry, and shows you are not interested in science at all
     
  7. Brewskier

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    Probably because many blacks have European DNA in the US due to race mixing. Africans do not.

    10% up from virtually nothing just a few decades ago. And it's not like their migration to Europe is done. It is continuing to this day, with hundreds of thousands scheduled to be allowed in. They also have more kids than Native Europeans, which means that their percentage of the population will increase sharply in the coming decades, with some European countries on track to being majority Muslim within the next 70-100 years.

    Europeans should never have to worry about becoming minorities in their own homeland.

    I never said there wasn't a cultural component.

    Based on what?
     
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    I just find it fascinating how all these anti-white "discoveries" always seem to come from Jewish scientists. The fact that their theories aren't shot down immediately is probably due to fears of muh anti-Semitism. Neanderthals had blue eyes, so it couldn't have been a "random mutation" tens, if not hundreds of thousands of years later in man. It's not a coincidence that blue eyes existed in Northern Europe, where low-light conditions in the forests, and the presence of snow made blue eyes an advantage over brown eyes. And, since blue eyes are recessive, it would require two recessive genes, one from each parent, to produce offspring with blue eyes. How could this have happened if only 1 guy with his "random mutation" bred with brown eyed people, who had no recessive genes present for blue eyes?
     
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    http://www.dailytech.com/NeanderthalHuman+Breeding+Was+Hard+But+Yielded+Benefits/article34236.htm

    It's not a coincidence that light skin and light eyes are found in the North, where these traits are strongly advantageous in that environment. It's not a coincidence that dark skin and dark eyes are found in Africa, where those traits are strongly advantageous in that environment.
     
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    ironic, as this comes from the guy who disregards scientific research simply due to the possible ethnicity of the scientist.
     
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    your failed understanding of genetics is 35 years old.

    we now know that more than 16 seperate genes go into the color of one's eyes.

    its not a simple matter of dominant vs recessive genes.

    but I am a Jew so you will likely disregard my comment.
     
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    Darwinian theory holds that adaptations are the result of a two-stage process: random variation and natural selection. Random variation results from slight genetic differences.



    but some folks think animals simply magically develop new attributes which are a direct result of the environment around them.

    this is ignorant, and shows a total lack of understanding of how Evolution works.


    animals do NOT suddenly develop new characteristics as a direct reaction to their environments.
     
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    light skin and light eyes turned out to be an advantage in Europe, due to less sunlight.

    dark skin and dark eyes turned out to be an advantage in Africa, due to the extreme sunlight.


    all the result of random mutation that was then sexually selected due to their advantage and higher survival rates.


    however, notice how Asians in Asia at the same latitudes as England, Germany, Poland, all still have dark eyes and dark hair.

    why? cause the light hair and light eyes mutation never got to them
     
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    Never said they did, but these adaptations becoming the norm in Northern Europe would have happened tens, if not hundreds of thousands of years before the "random mutation" that you are speaking of.
     
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    nice diversion.

    do you admit that light eyes, light hair, are the result of random mutation that just happened to pose an advantage in areas with less sunlight?

    or do you still stick to your Creationist Intelligent Design garbage?
     
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    and yet they are NOT the norm in Asia, at the same latitudes and amount of sunlight.

    why? the mutation didnt happen to them
     
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    Actually it did.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond#Asia
     
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    Oh look at that, you just disregarded scientific research as a "diversion". Weren't you just complaining about people who do that?
     
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    Yes it did, it was mixed out over time.
     
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    Why does it bother you so much if white Europeans identify as descendants of Neanderthals, Ron? Why does that bother Jews so much?
     
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