Economics is Taught with a Left Wing Bias

The degree of success one achieves during their life has a lot to do with the effort they put forth. And very well should!
You could say that surviving to live the next day is a degree of success.
About the only thing I can think of that is truly free would be the air we breathe.

 

Nope.
We pay for it in the UK.

It's taxed.

Monitored, regulated and taxed.

Dirty air producers are fined. Greenhouse gas emitters are fined.
Car engine types are subsidised etc.

 

That is not statistical fact - it is wishful thinking on your part and numerous others pestiferous on this forum.

Were what you say above a fact, then 14% of the population (more than 40 million Americans) would not be living below the Poverty Threshold. From which you imply those on Welfare are just monkeys living their lives off the "gummint".

You seem to think that "everybody CAN DO what YOU DID". Look, you are not the "center of the universe". You are just a Replicant on his High Horse trying to convince the world that "because I made it, everybody else can".

And that just aint necessarily factually true. Whilst many can indeed, I have posted the numbers here that show differently.

You simply refuse to acknowledge them. This exchange is thus over ...

 

A statistical fact.

Lol.

 

There are three kinds of lies...

 

He said they can. He didn't say they do.

 

All businesses must overcome the barrier of financing.

Are you saying that operating a business requires some sort of ability that most workers don't have?

 

That's the problem. They "don't".

And why? Because the US is an anachronism stuck in the Industrial Age, which up and left in the 1990s when the Bamboo Curtain opened and China entered massively into American markets with cheap-products.

We still haven't recovered mentally from the shock, and in order to do so we as a nation must learn the lesson of Age Change. We are no longer in the Industrial Age with only 12% of our workforce actually manufacturing products.

We are squarely in the Information Age, where state-of-the-art products/gadgets are designed in the US and manufactured in China. Google and Facebook are Service Industry companies - not "manufacturers". The entire Internet is a service to those employing it.

Period.

 

Right... it would appear. It would appear to anyone who is entrenched in a capitalist economy and who isn't familiar with all the advantages of private businesses, and who isn't familiar with the needs of co-ops. Here are a few proposals to think about:

Pass legislation mandating that any enterprise within their constituency that plans to (a) close, (b) sell itself to another business, or (c) go public via an IPO must first oer its own employees a right of first refusal with an option to buy the enterprise and reorganize it as a worker coop.

Pass legislation to establish a worker coop development bank as a government enterprise OR in partnership with local private banks to provide grants/loans to enterprises undergoing transition from traditional workplaces to worker coops. This would include:
• Developing criteria for when grants rather than loans are offered;
• Developing criteria for subsidized (below-market rate) loans;
• Providing funds for such subsidies.

Pass legislation enabling workers eligible for unemployment insurance to obtain the entirety of that insurance as a lump sum if (a) 60% of the funds are used as start-up capital for a worker coop, and (b) at least 9 other unemployed workers make parallel borrowings.

Pass legislation establishing and funding a worker-coop development agency that can start, incubate, and assist the development of new and existing worker coops. (e.g., a Cooperative Business Administration modeled after the Small Business Administration.)

Pass legislation mandating that at least 5-10% of government purchases be made from local worker coops, whenever a local coop provides a relevant service or product available.

Pass legislation providing property and income tax abatements or exemptions for new and existing worker-coops as follows:
• 5-year abatements/exemptions for general new worker coops;
• 7-year abatements/exemptions for worker coops formed by unemployed persons or persons with incomes below the poverty line;
• 10-year abatements/exemptions for worker coops formed by formerly incarcerated individuals.

Pass legislation establishing and funding a worker coop center to perform the following tasks:
• Organize classes in starting, financing, running worker coops;
• Organize workshops, conferences, and seminars to facilitate cooperation among worker coops within the constituency;
• Develop and present programs informing the public of the existence, benefits, and advantages of worker coops within the local economy;
• Train worker coop members in the preparation and presentation of spoken, written, audio and video programs about the social benefits of a worker coops in the local economy.

 

That doesn't make a person a socialist. It makes him lousy in finance.

You might look deeper. Don't fall for the trick that says it's all about being "left" or "socialist". There's another agenda going on there.

With all this "lefty" interest in UK society and education, why doesn't the government actually push for socialism instead of the mess you seem to have?

Be careful what you wish for. We in the USA had something much, much closer to laissez-faire capitalism around the time of the beginning of the 20th century. You might look into the hell-hole it was for the people. FDR rightly boasted that he had "saved capitalism" with his "socialist" programs. The people were about to overthrow the government until he came along. And there was no difficulties with measuring market efficiencies or productivity.

I'm sorry to burst your nice and comfortable bubble, but every nation promotes, defends, encourages, and in some instances requires certain types of social behavior that is consistent with the economic structure of the country. The job of government is to maintain, preserve, promote, protect, and advance the economic life of the country, and that is done within the framework of the economic system in place. So the promotion of a certain type of social behavior results, necessarily.

Yes! The economy is the foundation from which everything else springs and rests upon.

We have a huge portion of our population here in the US who have to decide daily whether to eat or whether to take their medication because they can't afford both. We have a huge portion of our population who don't get enough to eat, and more who don't get healthy, quality food, and their health suffers for it. And this is the richest, most successful capitalist nation ever. So it's a problem of people not being able to guide their own lives, and while that is heavily promoted as the strength of laissez-faire capitalism, it isn't. That is just propaganda. Real socialism that is true to the definition of the word, is worker control of the economy. What workers of what company would agree to pollute the water and air of the community when they are the ones living there? What workers would choose to produce poor quality goods to sell to their neighbors and use, themselves? Socialism is not government controlling the work life of workers and the businesses where they work. That breeds power structures that destroy.

 

I didn't say "most".

 

Conservatism has won many Nobel prizes in economics. You obviously would not recognize something intelligent if you read it

 

Beginning of 20th-century?? What lib socialists call the robber baron era was really the period of fastest economic growth in American history perhaps the best example is John D Rockefeller Who turned night into day for all Americans for the first time in history by introducing cheap kerosene for light at night he was almost like a God for doing that but of course roundly vilifiedby the Communists for doing that. Yes, there were labor abuses but they were due to uncontrolled immigration not due to the glories of Republican capitalism.

 

A huge portion who don't get enough to eat? We also have an even huger portion of poor people who get too much to eat that tells you we suffer more from being too rich Then from being too poor. The liberal mind will lack the subtlety to grasp this problem

 

What workers would agree to pollute the air and water? Workers who would lose their job if their company became less competitive or went bankrupt by paying for pollution controls. Now do you understand?don't you see the advantagee the Chinese workers get because they have a slight pay advantage versus American workers?

 

Eat or take their medication?? 70% of all recent drug company drug patents come from American companies if American companies and American capitalism was not so successful There would be no issue whatsoever about eating or drugs. Does the liberal mind has the subtlety to grasp this issue

 

-at the expense of the workers and the people.

 

So, you cannot distinguish overeating from being unable to afford quality food instead of junk food? Figures.

 

Yes but you don't. Your claim is BS. And BTW, why do you pollute the forum with FOUR posts to me on ONE of my posts and take up all the extra storage space on the server to keep FOUR copies of my ONE post when you could have done it all in one, or you could have greatly reduced the size of my post in subsequent copies?

 

No, explain it to me. Are you actually saying that if drug companies were not so successful, drugs would not be so expensive?

 

I read your proposal, and thought "what a good time to play the Twilight Zone theme."

 

Totally stupid of course since there is no economic growth unless the workers can buy the products they makeWho do you think the robber baron sold all their products to the Martians??

 

If republican capitalistdrug companies were not so successful there will be no drugs to buy and no conflict between eating and taking your drugs was that simple enough for you

 

It's important for each of you're mistakes to stand individually where they can be seen rather than buried in huge meandering text that nobody can read find or pick up quickly. This makes the forum much easier to use and much more user-friendly especially for a new participants who want to jump into a thread

 

You are standing against facts and history, pretending a different, more pleasant situation existed.