Wake up, liberals: There will be no 2018 “blue wave,” no Democratic majority and no impeachment

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think she really wants to. But she's now a 2 time loser, she will be older (and less healthy), and her party will turn on her the first chance it gets. Its not going to be pretty but the sooner dems get this rift addressed the better it will be for them.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is doing all the right things. The media won't cover it, but he will bring it up when it suits him. He's running circles around dems and they clearly don't know what to do.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see her as power mad. Let her try though.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bro, nobody is buying it. Save your lines.
     
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    I admitted I did not know Montana had only one district. Is that "ignorance of basic politics"? ;-)
     
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    The Democrats have a serious problem and it's not Trump.

    Trump is just a symptom of the Democrat problem. Democrats won't consider an alternative view, their only compromising is as a tactic to gradually incrementally accomplish their goals, there's no concession to an opposing view, this can't even be discussed. Look at the news we constantly get from academia where students need to be warned of possibly "triggering" content, huddle in "safe spaces" where they can avoid any disagreement, protected from differing views by banning guest speakers who might raise them... If you question the sense in mandating gender optional bathrooms, the sustainability of Obamacare, the certainty of global warming alarmism, the peacefulness of Islamists, the morality of abortion, the economic sense of a $15 minimum wage, or any of a number of their favorite aims, you will be denounced, ridiculed, slandered, they will use the intelligence community, the tax authorities, law enforcement and the courts to literally "take you down", no freedom of speech for you, exile is your best option.
     
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    I admitted I did not know that Montana still had only one district. Was I wrong about Montana often electing Democrats? ;-)

    I do know that Montana is not a solid Republican state. I bet you know that as well - be honest - admit it. ;-)
     
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    And all of those offices are filled through state wide elections. So in Montana 3 out of the 4 top positions are still held by Democrats. And the new Republican Congressman was defeated by the Democrat in a race for governor just last November in spite of Trump's landslide victory.

    I have never thought of Montana as a Republican stronghold because it just isn't one. Have their ever been 2 Republican Senators from Montana?
     
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    That is how gerrymandering is supposed to work. If possible deny the opposition any competitive districts. That is seldom possible. But Republicans and Democrats will give a seat to the other party to craft several safe districts for their candidates.
    As I recall Maryland is a good example of how that works. The Democrats that run the state have stuffed one district with Republicans to keep the rest of the state's districts safe.
     
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    Bro. Your fake news doesn't work. Spin all you want. Your BS is priceless. PRICELESS!!!!!!

    BTW bro how's that wall a com'in?
     
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    But, almost everyone of these +30 Dem seats were drawn by Democrats.
     
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    LOL! That's what I get for trying to say something nice about your candidate!

    Even the Washington Post has admitted that the Fake News blitz has not moved the numbers enough to change the results of the last election. Trump's support remains very stable.

    “Despite the public’s skepticism of Trump’s first 100 days, the survey finds little evidence voters would render a different verdict from last November, when Trump won key states needed to secure victory in the electoral college despite Clinton winning more votes nationwide.
    The new survey finds 46 percent saying they voted for Clinton and 43 percent for Trump, similar to her two-point national vote margin. Asked how they would vote if the election were held today, 43 say they would support Trump and 40 percent say Clinton.” Washington Post, Nearing 100 days, Trump’s approval at record lows but his base is holding, Dan Balz, 4/23/17.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-1202am:homepage/story&utm_term=.141456bc3585

    Those approval numbers have increased since this Washington Post-ABC News poll.
     
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    "I actually do give her credit for determination. She is the walking wounded - cannot be easy."

    Just walking often proves to be more of a challenge than she can handle.
     
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    Anyone that sick has to be power mad to run for president.
     
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    Black Voters Aren’t Turning Out For The Post-Obama Democratic Party.

    On April 18th in Georgia, black voters did not necessarily join their white counterparts in a surge of Democratic enthusiasm against Trump. Compared to turnout levels in the 2014 midterms — which, like this special election, was an off-year election where Democratic enthusiasm was low and Obama was not on the ballot — black Democratic turnout in Georgia’s 6th lagged around 10 points behind that of white Democrats, though black voters still turned out at a higher rate than Republicans as a whole did.

    As in 2016, the Democratic coalition in the Georgia special election relied somewhat less on African-American votes, gaining numbers instead through higher-than-expected turnout from the district’s fast-growing Hispanic and Asian populations. Nonwhite voters make up a smaller share of the 6th District’s electorate than Georgia’s as a whole, but the trends shown below are consistent with ones we saw in many states in a post-2016 review of voter turnout.

    Democrats may partially solve their midterm turnout problem before they repair the cracks in their Electoral College strategy. In 2018, Democrats may be able to win over and turn out the kinds of white voters who showed up for them in Georgia’s 6th — educated, left-leaning, but usually unlikely to vote in midterms — even as “the resistance” fails to appeal to the African-American community that has been a major element of Democrats’ traditional base.

    The Democratic party has been captured by gentry liberals and tech titans who don’t share many interests in common with African-American voters, and President Obama’s race could provide cover for only so long.
     
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    Of course, the idea is to draw as many safe districts as possible by drawing district lines to exclude enough of the opposition to guarantee victory. Parties do not gerrymander to make politics competitive.

    Democrats complain about Texas redistricting I would guess that it is similar to NY. Why shouldn't the RP use the same legal political tactics employed against them?
     
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    The most serious problem for Democrats is voter opposition to the DP political agenda.
    Democrats are now regularly losing elections at every level of government.
     
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    The DP has always undermined black Americans, and their community and their culture. It has become too obvious for many of them to ignore and continue voting Democrat.
     
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    Its only a problem when dems lose. When they win "everyone" does it.
     
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    All your bases are belong to Trump.
     
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    True, and she isn't wearing those glasses to look cool. Wonder if thats gonna be less of a problem, or more of a problem in 3 years.

    Another election might kill her, and I don't think she cares.
     
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    Has to be. Recall how after her fall last September, she went to her Chelseas apartment and then walked around in front to show reporters she was ok. She even had a kid run up and hug her.

    This woman is a huckster through and through and yet dems be like...
     
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    It's always a trade off, you trade safety for numbers. The more ultra safe seats you have, the fewer overall seats you are likely to win. For generations, Democrats were so safe, that they could draw many ultra safe seats and still carry the House. Those days have been long gone, but Dems are still drawing seats like they are still here.

    There are way more, way way more +30 Dem seats drawn by Democrats than there are +30 GOP seats drawn by Republicans.

    New York 15th D+44 Democratic
    New York 13th D+43 Democratic
    California 13th D+40 Democratic
    Pennsylvania 2nd D+40 Democratic
    Illinois 7th D+38 Democratic
    New York 7th D+38 Democratic
    California 12th D+37 Democratic
    California 37th D+37 Democratic
    New York 5th D+37 Democratic
    New Jersey 10th D+36 Democratic
    New York 8th D+36 Democratic
    California 34th D+35 Democratic
    California 44th D+35 Democratic
    Florida 24th D+34 Democratic
    Georgia 5th D+34 Democratic
    Massachusetts 7th D+34 Democratic
    New York 9th D+34 Democratic
    California 40th D+33 Democratic
    Illinois 4th D+33 Democratic
    Michigan 13th D+33 Democratic
    Washington 7th D+33 Democratic
    Ohio 11th D+32 Democratic
    Florida 20th D+31 Democratic
    New York 12th D+31 Democratic
    Pennsylvania 1st D+31 Democratic
    Michigan 14th D+30 Democratic

    vs

    Texas 13th R+33 Republican
    Texas 11th R+32 Republican
    Georgia 9th R+31 Republican
    Kentucky 5th R+31 Republican
    Alabama 4th R+30 Republican

    No comparison.

    The claim that the Dems are losing the House because the GOP is packing them into fewer safe districts, simply does not stand up to even cursory study.
     
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    We need to keep reaching out to them like Trump did.
     
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    Trump needs to fulfill his commitment to rebuild America's failing cities.
     
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