Muslims and our way of life?

Here is a question I have to ask, why can't muslims leave the western world alone just because we don't subscribe to their religion? Why do they have to blow things up and harm us? They always hated our values and why? I don't see the jews trying to blow buildings up and harm people just because we don't subscribe to their jewish faith.

 

No offense, you are kind of new here, but I am really getting tired of these racist threads. Extremists of any faith commit crimes, always have. What we should look for are the causes of radicalization, no matter the religion or racial group.

These people that you blame, they fled the countries they were born in because it was wrecked by religious zeal and war, do you really think they want it back here? Stop messing out with other people's countries and they will stop coming on our shores.

Why can't people think, for fck's sake?

 

Here we go again, I'm not "racist" for speaking the truth. This is why you all lost the election, we have a different opinion, we are called "racists" and "sexists" for real grow up.

 

Yes, they do blow up Palestinians/Lebanese and British buildings, they also round up goyim, put them in ghetto outside of any human rights, steal their land, cut down their orchards, checkpoint their roads, destroy their public utilities and assassinate their leaders.

They also cost the US taxpayer billions of their tax dollars a year to do it.

 

It is "racist" (or more precisely, segregationist) because it is the textbook exemple of hatred and fear on the basis of skin colour/religion/whatever caused by ignorance and prejudice.

I didn't lost the elections: not only am I Canadian, but I favored Trump before the election, a bit ashamed to say now. Check out my pre-election posts if you doubt it.

 

Yeah, there are no civilians in the White House and the Pentagon. Your post smacks of a murderous nature and one who hates the U.S. and even hates it's people. What a sad attitude. Maybe Allah will forgive you but I won't.

 

It is important to understand that these people hate and kill far more than those in democratic or western nations. They kill far more fellow Muslims than anyone else, granted the Islamic faith is responsible for killing all of them and is considered disgusting because of it by everyone non Muslim but, until Muslims grow a set and stand up to the nut jobs in their ranks their religion will be attacked forever.

 

No it is not. It is based on ACTIONS.

 

A big part of it is how they are raised. They are raised to hate. Not to mention, their dictators and their Imams and others in positions of authority bad mouth the west constantly. That helps to take attention away from their own crimes against their own people. They need to keep the ignorance and the hatred alive and well with lots of propaganda about the "white satans."

 

Funny, the average Muslim in America seems to get through daily life here just fine.

Anyway, I'm sure the OP is blissfully unaware of the whole Iraq quagmire under Bush II that didn't need to happen in the first place.

 

Why didn't the US deserve being attacked?

 

Collateral damage - it's commonly used as an excuse when the US kills civilians in Muslim countries.
I assumed it is considered acceptable because you use that excuse so often.

 

You respond to your habitat. if you look at the love for religion in the near east, you will find it takes control because the old people are always talking about it, brining it into daily life. this affects the youth, and, they tend to be surrounded by it in their media, as it is always a case for religious holidays, which bomb the media like in the west stressing peace and patience. i think this stressing of peace and patience goes a long way with the youth who find authority over authority - rebellion - and put 'cool dudes' that are by comparison gangsters in the west, and, even in the west, gangsters cling to religion to justify themselves as they feel so insecure with the way the world looks at them. this bring religion into the whole deal and then you get people throwing qurans at each other before they start shooting.

 

Enough with the lost the election bull-****. Your leader has no mandate for a reason and if you don't know what a mandate is look it up. Are you even an American?

 

That you even need or bother to ask that question solidifies my comment. NO ONE "deserves" to be attacked in cowardly retribution for something some sky fairy whispered in your ear and no one else can even hear. NO ONE "Deserves" to be terrorized and murdered for going to work one morning in the wrong building or living in a country some nut job hates. NO ONE "deserves" death because a "God" says so.....PERIOD!

You sir personify the reason internet filters exist.

 

Yes, I'm american and I was born in Tennessee. You may not believe it, but I'm a moderate democrat who has not like the direction my party has gone. We don't care about bathroom issues, gay rights or **** like that. It's all about the economy, Hillary didn't have a message, it was all "Anti-Trump" that's not talking about policy.

 

Thanks for reminding us of your “Nation as Muslims,” a term used by Peaceful Muslim from Chicago:

Immediately following 9/11, I went back to the website of the Koran software I was using and saw this:

“I please Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala to help Afghans(Taliban) brothers, Mujaheedins and all muslims and to gave them absolutly victory againest those who attacks.”

Sunday, 30 September, 2001, 16:54 GMT 17:54 UK:
"'We do not accept the presence in our country of a single soldier at war with Muslims or Arabs,' Prince Sultan said in comments published on Saudi Arabia's official Okaz newspaper on Sunday." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1571689.stm

"Saudi Arabia said what?
'You can’t kill an Arab or Moslem;'
No matter the murderous plot,
We respect them?" (Sun 30 Sep 2001 09:03:18 PM EDT)

“Expressing your opinion and ‘Freedom of Speech‘ is fine until the point of insult.. if what you are saying justifies the insult then that means non of the human rules we are creating are applicable ..” (Peaceful Muslim, from Chicago) http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/8170-now-4.html#post242088

"Muslims would not be killing other Muslims. They would not be using Arabia to launch strikes on Muslim countries if they were actually Muslims.

Read the Quran

it's all explained in there" (Abu Sina) http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/258998-syrian-christians-taking-up-arms-fight-western-gulf-backed-wahabi-fanatics-6.html#post1061567723

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We bombed Afghanistan because of this:

“Throughout 2000 the Taliban continued to host Usama Bin Ladin despite UN sanctions and international pressure to hand him over to stand trial in the United States or a third country. In a serious and ongoing dialogue with the Taliban, the United States repeatedly made clear to the Taliban that it would be held responsible for any terrorist attacks undertaken by Bin Ladin while he is in its territory.” http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2000/2432.htm
One Iraq, Two Iraq, Three Iraq!

We bombed Iraq because of these:

“H32. Requires Iraq to inform the Security Council that it will not commit or support any act of international terrorism or allow any organization directed towards commission of such acts to operate within its territory and to condemn unequivocally and renounce all acts, methods and practices of terrorism;

I33. Declares that, upon official notification by Iraq to the Secretary-General and to the Security Council of its acceptance of the provisions above, a formal cease-fire is effective between Iraq and Kuwait and the Member States cooperating with Kuwait in accordance with resolution 678 (1990);” http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/sres/sres0687.htm

July 1997, South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers; well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/countries/Iraq/speech.htm

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Now your argument is that we should have bombed all Muslims, because all Muslims dressed in civilian clothes, like those on 9/11, are the enemy. Thank you for reminding us that Al Quacka were Muslims, I was calling them Black Stone Idolaters on 9/11, but that tended to get some on peaceful ones. I will continue to try to separate out Al Quacka like you from the others, but you make it so hard.

 

How about the attackers?

 

Using that incorrect tired line of why Trump won exposes much ignorance because most voter eligible Americans did not vote for him...therefore, no mandate to accomplish what a minority of the people in the USA want him to.

 

Collateral damage is what Muslims started when they attacked walled cities, complaining that the effeminate Greek Christians would not come out to fight, and then took their women as war booty:

"[59.14] They will not fight against you in a body save in fortified towns or from behind walls; their fighting between them is severe, you may think them as one body, and their hearts are disunited; that is because they are a people who have no sense."

Yeah, a wall and border patrol will protect us. {Sound of laughter}

"[24.33] ... and do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, when they desire to keep chaste, in order to seek the frail good of this world's life; and whoever compels them, then surely after their compulsion Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

"(3) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection." (Book #62, Hadith #137)"



“(6) Narrated 'Ali: Fatima complained of what she suffered from the hand mill and from grinding, when she got the news that some slave girls of the booty had been brought to Allah's Apostle. She went to him to ask for a maid-servant, but she could not find him, and told 'Aisha of her need. When the Prophet came, Aisha informed him of that. The Prophet came to our house when we had gone to our beds. (On seeing the Prophet) we were going to get up, but he said, 'Keep at your places,' I felt the coolness of the Prophet's feet on my chest. Then he said, "Shall I tell you a thing which is better than what you asked me for? When you go to your beds, say: 'Allahu Akbar (i.e. Allah is Greater)' for 34 times, and 'Alhamdu Lillah (i.e. all the praises are for Allah)' for 33 times, and Subhan Allah (i.e. Glorified be Allah) for 33 times. This is better for you than what you have requested." (Book #53, Hadith #344)

(3) Narrated 'Urwa on the authority of 'Aisha: On the days of Mina, (11th, 12th, and 13th of Dhul-Hijjah) Abu Bakr came to her while two young girls were beating the tambourine and the Prophet was lying covered with his clothes. Abu Bakr scolded them and the Prophet uncovered his face and said to Abu Bakr, "Leave them, for these days are the days of 'Id and the days of Mina." 'Aisha further said, "Once the Prophet was screening me and I was watching the display of black slaves in the Mosque and ('Umar) scolded them. The Prophet said, 'Leave them. O Bani Arfida! (carry on), you are safe (protected)'." (Book #15, Hadith #103)

 

Notice the thousands of Muslims who do not want to live in Muslim countries. That alone tells me it's a religion of evil.

 

Which only is a small fraction of the ones that currently live there though. Look at Indonesia, which has the world's largest population of Muslims.

 

Every book needs some interpretation, to the Christian the fact that the book only tells us to follow God (Holy Spirit), not any book, that Jesus (“Word of God”) is the overseer of our souls, not a man or his book; thousands of Christians fled the countries that established an interpretation of the Book. Black Stone Idolaters follow books, the righteous follow God. Technically, regardless of the name of the rose, the righteous are Sons of God.


It is more accurate to say that thousands of Muslims do not want to live in Moslem countries (by the Book). They wouldn't be Muslims if they believed it was a religion of evil; it is just evil is like body odor, if you got it you probably can't smell it.

 

Defense is another matter which has nothing to do with this discussion. Destroying buildings full of unknowing and innocent non combatants with unconventional and stealth weaponry is simple cowardly terrorism and not warfare.

 

That reminds me:

“Rape is not an enemy but a technique of warfare -- political intimidation through the selective breeding of unarmed non-combatants.” (Zbigview Brznutski, Obama supporter)
(Terrorized by 'War on Rape' - Washingtonpurplethrobbingpost) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/23/AR2007032301613.html

“The President’s strategy is absolutely clear about the threat we face. Our enemy is not ‘terrorism’ because terrorism is but a tactic. Our enemy is not ‘terror’ because terror is a state of mind and as Americans we refuse to live in fear. Nor do we describe our enemy as ‘jihadists’ or ‘Islamists’ because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenant of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one’s community, and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children.” (Remarks by Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism John Brennan at CSIS)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-assistant-president-homeland-security-and-counterterrorism-john-brennan-csi

"Medina is like a pair of bellows (furnace): It expels its impurities and brightens and clears its good"


Would you be surprised to learn how many “liberals” claimed the following was not terrorism, or a material breach of United Nations (of tyrants too) resolution 1441?

“March 5, 2003: Bus bombing in Haifa. U.S. citizens killed: Abigail Leitel, 14, who was born in Lebanon, New Hampshire.” http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/usvictims.html

“The suicide bomber was 20 years old, a student of the Hebron Polytechnic University (from which a large number of suicide bombers have emerged) and a member of the Hamas terrorist organization.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/861590/posts

March 13, 2003: “(CBS) Saddam Hussein has distributed $260,000 to 26 families of Palestinians killed in 29 months of fighting with Israel, including a $10,000 check to the family of a Hamas suicide bomber. In a packed banquet hall on Wednesday, the families came one-by-one to receive their $10,000 checks. A large banner said: ‘The Arab Baath Party Welcomes the Families of the Martyrs for the Distribution of Blessings of Saddam Hussein.’“ http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/14/world/main543981.shtml