Us troops even at war with Islam in PHILIPPINES. Will this war ever end?

nonresponsive. I did not ask you to find someone to quote about the nature of Islam. I did not ask you what Trump thought. those are distractions, not an answer. If you found a quote from him as President, saying that the United States was 'at war with Islam' without qualifying it to a subset of Islam, it would be relevant. I asked you to address the lie you told to promote your agenda.

 

A more accurate statement would be "we are at war with those that follow the Islamic TEXTS". So can we agree that following the Islamic texts can be a very very bad thing, bt?

 

Nonsense - "our" Christian Abrahamic faith, believing that faith itself is virtuous, only serves to empower the belief that faith is good in Muslims. Faith (belief w/out a court-room level of evidence) is NOT good! "I get 72 virgins if I kill infidels! - I don't need FACTS, I just have FAITH that I get that!"

 

Out of 1.6 billion, how many idiots follow that? If we equate that to Democrats in the US, at least 40%? 640 million Jihadists is a bit much. Hopefully they aren't looking for a global popular vote, we've still got a stronghold on the Electoral College.

 

If we are not at war with Islam, then Islam is SURE AS HELL at war with us! They haven't forgotten the Crusades, and they see things in religious terms - more than we can fathom.
Just look at how much they rely on their religion even in SOCCER MATCHES!
Mosul ISIS soccer games: The militants also ordered the referees not to use whistles during the game "because the sound would make the devils gather," the players said.
Trophies and medals were also forbidden because it was thought that they would encourage greed. Tournaments could not be organized either.

 

Hehe, we'd have had a president Gore AND a president Shillary if it weren't for the Electoral College. I'm a sports fan, so I'm going to start rooting for the ELECTORAL college from here on out!

 

As they lose in Syria, they just transport their quest for virgins (their Jihad) to Europe and America - we are seeing that in the constant attacks in Britain - even ARIANA GRANDE's concert was hit! I almost can't imaging anything less likely to be hit than a teeny-bopper concert for girls by a young woman who has nothing to do with government or religion or war, etc. No one is safe then.

 

No that would be another lie because we are not at war with those that follow the Islamic texts. We are at war with the groups that the United States declares we are at war with. This country is not at war with those you want us to be at war with, because you do not get to decide that. You lied because you wanted to lie.

 

This is our generations VIETNAM....but we can't just cut out of THIS war, we must finish it.....so we are terrible parents as we are giving our children and grandchildren endless war - our bombing of civilians will ENSURE that, no question.

 

Look, Obama said the following, so he is delusional when it comes to this war....his dad was a Muslim, so that might be part of it. I don't care what the gov't says - hell, they can't even call it "Islamic terrorism"! They are in denial. I can read the news everyday: thereligionofpeace.com has the list of the 30,000+ deadly Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11 alone - you should look at it.

 

if this post is supposed to show that you now admit that you lied when you said we were at war with Islam, it does not go far enough. Do you condemn secular humanist liars like yourself who do so, to promote a political agenda?

 

* 640 million. I had to amend my last post, due to pure glee at laughing at these tardies made me giddy and fat finger my calculator. I'm a sports fan too. Lebron had a better chance of being great than Clinton. Sad but not when bitches think they are better than the people. Eff them and the camels they rode in, or cactus they sit and are spinning on.







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So instead of me pointing out your lies in the name of secular humanism, you want to look at someone else's statements. Sorry, but you have not apologized for lying yet, as any ethical secular humanist would, and you sure have not promised to refrain in the future.

 

I'll chime in. I said nothing of the sort, WE ARE AT WAR WITH ISLAM. Eff them. Ban em, ban em all. We can deal with our current ones, and their violent spawn. The ones that get out of line here will be dealt with swift backwoods justice.

 

I wasn't arguing that "we Christians" challenge them, I was arguing that we Americans challenge them every day. We vote. We use democratic processes. We have individual freedoms. We believe in a religion as we please, or we don't believe in any religion. Women have equal rights. They may dress however they wish, and they may come and go as they wish. We speak freely. We may challenge our institutions. We may hold and voice our own opinions, even unpopular ones. The list goes on and on. Classic liberal western culture challenges Islam-based cultures every day by its existence.

I'm fine with leaving it at that ... unless there is violence perpetrated against us as I've already discussed.

 

nonresponsive. None of the above has squat to do with a radical secular humanist who lies to promote his agenda. you said you would condemn such behavior, and yet you have not apologized for doing that exact thing in this thread.

 

You do not believe in the robber barons ? Have you been living in a cave for the last 3 decades ?

I suppose it would be news to you that we currently make 450 Billion a year in interest payments to these international financiers. This is coming out of your pocket dude (unless you are a welfare bum who does not pay taxes).

Then you have the transnational food companies - why you pay 3.50 for a loaf of bread when the farmer gets 5 cents.

The Healthcare Oligopolies - why you pay 2-10 times the price for drugs as the same drug from the same company costs in other countries.

Insurance - "price fixing and collusion gone wild" ... there are 3 main re-insurers who run the show.

Banks - just a few now control most of the market - and you bailed them out after they sodomized you.

Media - owned and controlled.

Defense contractors - now that's a huge scam. Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex.

In 2000 - Total Military Spending was roughly 300 Billion. After 8 years of Bush it rose to over 900 Billion and under Obama exceeded 1 Trillion. Had we maintained 2000 level spending (increasing with inflation) we could have diverted 500 Billion/year over 16 years = 8 Trillion dollars to infrastructure, technology, ramping up our economy to compete in the third millennium.

Instead we through that money down the toilet (into the pockets of the robber barons) fighting useless wars with no return on investment.

Don't forget the add the 450 Billion annual interest payment amount to the above total ..

I can continue (or give you details on any of the above points) but this should at least start the education process. Folks need to be better informed ... they feel the pain in their backside but do not know who is sodomizing them.

 

With a large chunk of Muslims approving of Jihad/Sharia (which I just proved with that large list of damning poll results), it would indeed appear that we are at war with Islam.

 

Incredible. A huge chunk of Islam wants to impose Sharia on us, like these polls show, yet your concern is me, the MERE MESSENGER. But wanting to cut off your daughter's private parts (Mohammad approved, so that's part of Sharia Law that we are fighting against) seems to be LESS of a concern to you. Wow.

 

I'm not all that religious and ethics are always moving goalposts. But what is never swaying is the fact that Islam is a pestilence and scourge on the face of the planet. In that regard, we should have it considered a climatic change? Should we have a meeting and call this a Mecca Accord?

 

We don't have the GUTS AS A NATION to condemn Mohammad for saying to BEAT women in Q4:34, as just one example! Because that would then open a can of worms, and Jesus wouldn't like that!

 

Bo Peep never mentioned a thing, even when his fancy boys and transgenders got killed in an Orlando night club. "Lifestyle violence".

 

"Mecca Accord" - where we declare war not on Climate Change, but rather on Islam....I like that. YOU'RE THINKING!

Hehe, we couldn't actually MEET in Mecca, of course, because they won't allow "unclean", that's right, we are "unclean", Infidels into Mecca at all. btthenotsogreat seems to think that me, just pointing that out, is far and away a worse crime than the illogical bigotry against all non-Muslims that Islam teaches, it would seem.

 

I am addressing you. You need to show that our government is at war with a religion, as opposed to specific terrorist groups. Every President from Clinton through Bush and even Trump, http://wamc.org/post/saudi-arabia-trump-says-fight-against-terrorism-battle-between-good-and-evil, has gone to great pains to distinguish Islam from terrorist groups or radicals. Trump said the following, " The fight against terrorism is a "battle between good and evil," not a fight between "different faiths, different sects, or different civilizations," President Trump said Sunday in a widely-anticipated speech in Saudi Arabia...Trump heaped praise on efforts of several Arab countries to combat militant groups and terrorism. He said the United Arab Emirates was helping U.S. efforts in Afghanistan. He called the tiny rich country of Qatar a "crucial strategic partner." Trump lauded Saudi Arabia for, among other things, joining the U.S. with sanctions on a Hezbollah leader and taking "strong action against Houthi militants" in Yemen. Trump praised Bahrain and Kuwait for anti-terrorism efforts..

There is no war against Islam. there is a war against specific terror groups. You lied. You claim you would condemn secular humanists who lie, well its time for you to apologize and promise to do better. That is how you promote ethical behavior, not by rationalizing and justifying the lies.

 

JESUS, yes, Jesus, is the messiah (they call him "Isa" in Islam) in Islam as well as the Bible, so they have a hard time condemning a fellow Abrahamic faith, that also has the same god, and similar prophets, such as Moses. Christians like btthenotsogreat are running interference for the the messiah in Islam, is appears....because he's THEIR messiah as well!! Now we are starting to see the real problem - it's Jesus.