Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes

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  1. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Neither my wife nor I ever used an absentee ballot, so we're both unfamiliar with them. But it seems one would have to register somewhere as a legitimate voter in order to have the absentee ballot mailed to you, right? Somewhere in the process, one would have to prove they are a legitimate citizen and eligible to vote. Otherwise, utter mayhem would result with every election.
     
  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's California, if they're against a voter ID then it stands to reason they're against proving who you are when you register.
     
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    Now you get it. That was your come to Jesus moment.

    Prior to the absentee ballot, I still had registered. The form to this day only asks you to state under penalty of perjury to being a citizen. They wanted to see proof of address, perhaps a utility bill. Today no proof was asked for.

    That happened far too long ago for me to recall details. For years I did not question CA voting.

    To this day, swear you are a citizen and you are home free. I asked at the recorders office how they verify this. They said they do not.

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  5. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh man, this is a tough one. Let me see here, millions of illegals or anyone else running around who are able to get registered to vote, or the Russians. Which one more likely impacted an election, any election? I'll be up all night with this one.
     
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    But, no illegals would ever try to take advantage of that, and vote in our elections...right?


    illegal voting no ID.jpg
     
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    Here in Texas I used my concealed handgun license when I voted. :)
     
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    Well you have to be an U.S. citizen to be commissioned an officer in the U.S. military.

    The U.S. Army has always had non citizen immigrants who served especially during the 19th Century.

    Before the American Civil War U.S. Navy enlisted ship crews were made up of a large number of foreigners, mostly British subjects.

    The CSS Alabama crew, probably the most famous raider ship in history were all British subjects except for the officers, Chief Petty Officers and the Marines on board who were all American citizens.

    The only American military service that didn't allow non citizens to serve were the U.S. Marine Corps. Before 1948 only U.S. citizens could serve in the Marine Corps.

    20,000 Canadians enlisted in the U.S. military during the Vietnam War without immigrant status. . 134 were killed. Or you could say for every five liberal draft dodgers who fled to Canada, one Canadian took their place.

    There's a list of foreign nationals who can enlist in the U.S. military without having immigrant status and a green car. Canadians, Brits, Aussies, Kiwis, Germans, etc.

    There's a list of foreign nationals who aren't allowed to enlist unless they have immigrant status and a green card like Mexicans.

    Probably the most infamous all immigrant non citizen U.S. military units in America's history was the St. Patrick's Brigade during the Mexican-American War.


    May explain why no Catholic was elected POTUS until 114 years later in 1960. Catholics who put the Pope above country was the belief.
     
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    I've never once in the past 44 years in California ever had to show ID to register to vote and never at the polls on voting day.

    Anybody in California can register to vote and vote. That's the way the Democrats want it.
     
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    Hey, you can't actually expect the Just Facts people or Trump the Chump to actually read and understand the Harvard study. These aren't real bright people and the actual study does use multisyllabic words.
     
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    "Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes". Where is a link to the source material to review? What is their methodology? Has there been a peer review?

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...ing-trump-voter-fraud-allegations-claim-57-m/
     
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    So when was the last tine you showed ID when you voted by mail?
     
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    Man you must be living in the sixties. Ever hear of the computer. You can get credit cards without paper, mortgages without paper, buy stocks and bonds without paper, rent hotels without paper, etc,etc, etc.
     
  14. Steve N

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    Cant get on a plane without paper. Can't get a driver's license without paper. Can't get into the DNC convention without paper.
     
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    So you are implying you'd like a chip implanted in your ass? Duly noted!! Holy jeebus effing christmas. You just brought down the entire forum's IQ basis by a full 20 points with that post. :roflol:
     
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    I'm very sorry Wild Horse but I couldn't find anything on MoveOn.org website or any of the other George Soros websites that you would accept as being a credible source..

    Can't use MSNBC, CNN, the Washington Post or the New York Times because Wikileaks exposed them of collusion and publishing fake news and the recent Congressional hearings conducting the witch hunt on the Hill confirmed it to be true.

    HOLLY MACKEREL !!! And it's not even Friday.


    http://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/do-illegal-votes-decide-elections

    A SAMPLING OF ELECTION FRAUD CASES FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY ->
    https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/pdf/VoterFraudCases-8-7-15-Merged.pdf





     
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    Hyperpoliticized, Captured-By-Progressives Garbage Institution the FBI Claims James Hodgkinson Had No Particular Target In Mind, Didn't "Surveil" the Minor, Ugly Park When He Repeatedly Scouted It and Took Pictures of It

    I don't think I'll ever trust the FBI again, and would be very skeptical of any case they made, were I sitting on a federal jury.

    Another institution successfully destroyed by Obama.

    You have to read the piece and compare what we know as facts with the FBI's bizarre, acid-dosed "conclusions."

    Just another arm of the DNC, this one carrying weapons and subpeonas.

    Maybe the FBI felt the need to protect the SPLC, whose FaceBook account James Hodgkinson "liked."

    James T. Hodgkinson, the Bernie Sanders supporter who targeted Republicans at a congressional baseball game practice and gravely wounded Congressman Steve Scalise (R-La.), gave moral support to the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), the group whose "hate map" inspired a terrorist attack in 2012. The SPLC had repeatedly attacked Scalise, along with former presidential candidate Ben Carson and women's right activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

    "Over the decades, the SPLC has refined a method of defaming its political opponents that is extremely effective when combined with the massive war chest it can rely upon," explained Lt. Gen. (Ret.) William Boykin, executive vice president at the Family Research Council (FRC) in a letter to Senators on Tuesday.

    "The SPLC targets people by using the 'hate' or 'extremist' label against them seeking to destroy them," Boykin explained. "Few people or organizations have the resources to fight back, so the SPLC typically has a clear target."
    ...
    Laird Wilcox, one of the foremost experts on American political extremism, said the SPLC has "specialized a highly developed and ritualized form of defamation ... a way of harming and isolating people by denying their humanity and trying to convert them into something that deserves to be hated and eliminated."

    Is the Left the biggest hate group in America?
     
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    That doesn't say illegals are being registered by the state of California to vote. Why is this so hard for you?
     
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    I asked him for proof that the sate of California is knowingly registering illegals to vote so I am not sure what argument you don't see as valid.
     
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    The California motor voter loophole sure does...
     
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    Prove that they registered them to vote. Assumptions are not proof.
     
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    Knowingly or IGNORANTLY..same result.
     
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    Problem there is no proof of either.
     
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    Well , there is plenty of "proof" of the loophole, and w/o PHOTO ID to vote, how do you propose we go about finding out the truth of the matter?
     
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    Lol...No you're not. You know that you're spreading lies and fake news for your great orange hope.
    But why are you still trying to polish that old turd for trump?
    We all know it was a lie because he was embarrassed about losing the popular vote.
     
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