NATO FILM: Forest Brothers – Fight for the Baltics

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  1. Ninian

    Ninian Banned

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    Not really, actually. War IS a war.
     
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    And Porosenko is a well-known pedophile and thief

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    You got links for it? For proof?
     
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    Probably you will begin to claim Kremlin, Moscow, Russia are Ukrainians too?
     
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    Just google in yandex, for example 'porosenko pederast'
     
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    Seems that the vile NAZI Bacillus lies deep within the diseased veins of the NATO puppet
    Perhaps our American Neocon & Zionist apparatchiks and talking heads can explain to us
    this Treasonous Alliance, that champions the cause of Quisling Collaborating Fascist Dogs

    Murderous Swine who accounted for untold numbers of innocent Jews when Hitler's holocaust
    .................................................................................................................... swept through the Baltic's

    AND NOW OUR NATO MAKES MOVIE HEROS OF THESE MISERABLE QUISLINGS

    What in Hell is the matter with you people?


    Why Red Is Not Brown In The Baltics
    Citizen collaboration in exterminations conducted by the Nazi's in the Baltics
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/sep/30/baltic-nazi-soviet-snyder

    From the Article
    What I have learned as a researcher of Yiddish who has lived in Lithuania for 11 years is that the
    obsession with finding some excuse – preferably that excuse – for massive local participation in the
    Holocaust is very much alive today among the elite classes of politicians, academics (especially
    historians) and media people throughout the region. And make no mistake, in the Baltics we are talking
    not just about "collaboration" with the Nazis, but "participation" in the frightening sense of thousands
    of volunteer killers being on hand to gleefully do most of the Nazis' killing, in effect of their own
    neighbours, in the three Baltic states and some other regions.


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    One lithuanian fellow... One from these Nazis scam that sometimes make parades in Estonia and Latvia?
    They have stability?! :grin: That is why they maybe run away from their countries like rats - because of stability. Zoom, you surprizes me.
    About electronics. Have you ever heard about VEF? It was a huge concern. And yes, they produced very good radio-receivers. Much better in quality than you can buy now in Walmart or Mediamarkt. And this was not the only single radioelectronics factory in Latvia. There were several.
     
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    Of course, Russia is not going to start a war with NATO countries. It is vice versa- looks like NATO wants to start a war.
     
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    I think in his PC these kind of links are blocked :grin: Like Russian internet resources- yandex, odnoklassniki etc
     
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    I think you have some problems with geography. Abkhazia, South Ossetia are not part of Russia. Less Manzhou, which is in China :grin:
     
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    it's a movie about the resistance movement in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, why can they not make movies about their heroes? There's two or more sides to every war, if you're on the other side... the solution is simple...don't watch it.

     
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    Is this definition of Forest brothers for idiots? During WW2 Baltic countries were occupied from 1941 to 1944 by Germany, and not USSR. Moreover, these so-called brothers were serving in Nazi military units. Are you arguing here the decision of Nuremberg tribunal that recognized them as military criminals?
     
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    So... sometimes they make movies about the bad guys...I've watched many Nazi documentaries...it's a part of history

    but

    NATO/filmaker obviously claim what you're saying is not what happened

     
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  14. Ninian

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    Nobody said it can't exist. We just said we don't like it.
     
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    And be apprised good "Zoomy" of the uncomfortable FACT
    That the Fascists that NATO here sponsors, are not just a few anti social Idiots with
    Swastika tattoos on their Arse. - The sorts insignificant sorts of human garbage of which
    .....................the USA can boast of thousands more than Russia could ever hope to sport,
    .........................................................................................in the form of Racist Outlaw Bikers

    These Fascist Ideologues, that the US & NATO here paint as HEROS, are the same sorts
    .................................... that they have Criminally placed into the halls of Power in the Ukraine

    BTW - You're NOT a paperclip are you "Zoomy" ? :)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

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    I do not see any contradiction here- SS officers could be among these guys to train them.
    This film is glorifying these forest brothers, so it is a different story.
     
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    The Forest Brothers were fighting against Soviet occupation, they were not fighting for Nazi's but likely using them and anything that will aid their cause in their fight against Russia.

    It's convenient for you to now call them Nazi's

     
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    ...by the way! Since you are embracing all sides of history - what about soviet, as well as modern russian studies of this war, decumentals and such? Which of them you found more or les memorable and interesting to share there?
     
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    Very interesting, they did not fight against Nazis when Germany occupied them, but they fought againts Russian Army when it came to push away German troops. That makes everything clear - they were on the Nazi Germany side and they are criminals.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...rch-2017-Remembrance-day-Latvian-legionnaires

    https://web.archive.org/web/20090113204945/http://www.un.int/russia/other/latv1941.htm
     
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    Not nearly as many, I think Russia needs to start making historical documentaries, many people here in Australia watch SBS high quality documentaries is a regular on this channel. Let me think I've read a book many years ago about a man in Russia that were a bystander in a bar fight, ended up in Siberia begging for other prisoner's blood... can't remember the title. So probably most people only hear about the horror stories.

    Enemy at the Gates (movie) but very little documentaries, I'd love to see some... if you can recommend (with english subtitles) I can buy online.
     
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    so why would they do that... were their hatred for Russia that big they would join Germany to fight against Russia? Are there history that goes back further behind their motivation
     
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    The situation was that Baltic countries were annexed to USSR in 1940. So there was one year of Soviet union presence there and then Nazi Germany occupied the territory. So basically by the end of the war Baltic countries have experienced mostly Nazi crimes (mass murdering of Jews there most known) and not Soviet army deeds.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Russian_sentiment

    Ok so yes very interesting, Estonia has reason to hate both Germany and Russia but politicians feed the hatred for Russia for their own purposes.... like the movie you mention lol... very well V... you have reason to complain, seems anti Russian fever in the west prompt politicians in the Baltics to promote anti Russian propaganda.
     
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    Hm-m.. Well, you certainly could widen the circle of views of yours. "Enemy at the Gates"? It's a feature film, it's as accurate as "300".

    As for documentals - well, we have plenty. As a start I can recommend documentals of "Star Media" - they are not very deep, made mainly for entertainment, and majority of them still have no English version - but as I said, it's a start.


    Also, WWII and Great Patriotic War are not the only ones they work on, obviously. Haven't seen that one below - but find it curious. Crimean War is not only war nicknamed "World War Zero" as far as I know, but.. I guess it has its reasons to be a claimant of such title.
     
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    Generally, there are plenty of documentals - of various views.
    About tactics and heroism.

    About struggles and tradegies.

    About looting even.



    This was an event that left a scorched mark on history of the whole planet. A time of questionable decidions, horrors and miracles. It still deeply touches people, and has questions to be asked about it.

    We are curious about that period of time, and study it. Sadly, rarely any of our documentals get translated in English.
     
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