Macron says Africa’s main problem is ‘7-8 children per woman,’

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  1. Lil Mike

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    So...Christian missionaries go to Africa, so therefore the United States government is responsible for African birth control? I'm not following where you are going with this.
     
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    I didn't say that. This is about "We're not responsible" which is incorrect. The US is partially responsible for the massive child birth in Africa since American missionary fanatically support this. While we're at it... they also promote having unprotected sex, the reason why aids is so spread in Africa. That the US government is not behind this, doesn't mean America is able to wash it's hands in all innocence.

    Not my problem.
     
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    I feel safe to say that your argument doesn't make sense.

    The US government isn't responsible for the teachings of Christian missionaries. They are not sponsored by the US government and don't represent the US government.

    Why would the US government be responsible for the teachings of Christian missionaries from other countries? Why would the US be responsible for Catholic Churches built by French missionaries a century ago?

    Christianity doesn't seem to cause an increase in fertility. The nominally "Christian nations" of Europe and the Western Hemisphere all have far lower birthrates.

    Maybe you just hate Christians and America and want to blame them for every single thing going on in the world.
     
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    They still are American, means you can't say "we're not responsible".

    You hammering on "but it's not the government" is just childishly nitpicking. If the US government was behind it, you no doubtingly would blame iffy undemocratically elected lobby groups claiming it wasn't the will of the people. You may have noticed... your nitpicking hasn't impressed me at all.

    Christianity has lost popularity in Europe quite drastically with gay rights all over the place. And a place like London closing 500 churches. Germany, France, Netherlands... they all busy closing churches. I do wonder where you have been living to not know this?
     
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    Well, you've made an argument at least. I think it's a ridiculous one that doesn't make sense but that's perfectly fine to make a nonsensical position your position.

    The Europeans brought Christianity to Africa. I do wonder where you have been living to not know this?
     
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    This Forum is not your private soapbox; it is open to input from everyone at all times.
     
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    ...and Nature abhors a vacuum. Hence...Islamic expansion.
     
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    What? I got rights too okay Flow?
     
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    Excuse my French but 2 million is way out of that little "oooh MonsheWWi... Just a petite waH chWime Monseuor" bullllllllsht!

    Fwench were the worst genocidal troops of all after Zee Germanians.
     
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    Christianity is making the entire world population sick. Killings terrorism war cause of migration, racism, fascism, torture, anything that comes to mind as what kills humanity is because of Christianity... Worst thing happened to this beautiful world...
     
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    Diplomatique fantastique... Too bad for ignorancia... Merci very much...
     
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    No... They need those kids for Dutch to slaughter them.
     
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    2 millions over 120 years, not 5 years. Do you want to speak of the millions of death the countless raids muslims made ?

    I'm sorry for the crimes we commited, not sorry for the colonization. Those bastards were trying to invade us and murdered us for centuries.
    Furthermore british killed a lot of people too.
    And too, when the turks colonized greece and eastern europe, they murdered/enslaved countless people too.

    Yeah, not because of a mad prophet who ordered the murder or destruction of everything non muslim.

    Christian civilization enabled : motors and so cars, trains, planes, photography, vaccins, modern medicine, movies, the knowledge of atoms, gravity and even more again.

    Muslims just murdered countless hindus and christian, were the biggest slavers of history, they even beaten us at that game.
    If they were only muslims, we would be still in middle age, if not put down in the stone age. When they were invaded, they got what they did to other civilizations for centuries.

    They burned down the library of Alexandria, they destroyed the buddhas in Afghanistans. Become for muslims, only one book should stay, the qu'ran, every piece of art, every other books should be destroyed. They hate so much life muslims often forbidden music, art, everything who can express the joy of life.

    Muslims cut the genitals of millions of young ladies and men eunuch for their degenerated sexual fantasies.

    The biggest genocidal maniacs of history is Muhammed. He did not only murdered countless people were alive, but his disciples are still murdering on a dailys basis centuries after that.
     
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    Hahaha... Its really fun to watch how you, like the other ones, sneak immediately back away to grab something of use to defend yourself. What's sad is that the thing you grabbed is nothing more of what you think is equal in wrongdoing. So basically, when you try to defend the crimes of French state, you not only happened to admit the crime was a genocide but by bringing up other crimes of other states you pathetically and horribly attempted to "justify" French wrongdoings, crimes, genocides... Typical European, average of everything... Lol....
     
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    No those crimes were not genocide. It was oppression of a people to occupy them. It's as stupid than claiming the nazis tried to genocide the french.

    Their is definitions to words, just open a dictionary in your life please, there si free ones on the internet.

    What we did in Algeria was horrible and so what ? Whe should excuse ourselves to have been strong ? Why should we excuse ourselves ? Did turks excused themselves to armenian ? Did arabs excuses themselves to africans ?

    European are the only one country who presented their excuse for slavery or the genocide of jews. Meanwhile, arabs use that as a justification of the destruction of Europe they are doing, meanwhile, they never excused themselves for any crime they comited.

    Most european spend so much of their time to be sorry of everything they allow muslims to come in their country and let them rape, loot and murder people.

    I'm just saying I don't care of the past, we won't let muslims kill us.
     
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    Why all the Franks like this? Trying to make friends going with them down the sh.it hole they dug out only for themselves? Lol... Who cares what Arabs or other nations did? At least they never threw their own sh.ts out of the windows like Franks did.. lol..

    This thread is about the "Frank" guy that dumped turd out of his apartment window by saying fascist stuff about Africans...
    He must either be drowned in parfume (pawhfume) tank or given the justice of guillotine!
     
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    Some sources would do wonders for the credibility of the content in your posts. Statistics, for instance. Something like birthrates before and after the rich American Christian conservative NGOs (list of names of such NGOs please) began their missionary work in Africa, or comparisons between countries where such NGOs are active and countries where such NGOs are not active.

    Meanwhile, the places with the highest birthrates on the planet are the two African preponderantly Muslim countries Niger and Mali. So much for rich American Christian conservative NGOs.
     
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    I accept the first figure only. If you read up on the individual countries you will find that their birthrates are going down and down.
     
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    No you don't. You've no rights here, only privileges, lad. Capiche? :juggle:
     
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    Well you sure made a massive argument that only governmental policies count.... not

    Not relevant information
     
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    What vacuum? Europeans are just shifting to atheism in all its variation.
     
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    But YOU care through your hatred of europeans.

    "Fascist stuff". You should really open a history book because you don't understand what is fascism. Macron didn't said anything racist. He was just scornfull.

    When you have 7 or 8 children, you can't spend as much money on each of them than when you got only 2 of 3. By having less children, you can feed them more, help them from a medical point of view more easily, and help them going to school.

    African are partly responsible for the situation Africa is in, and they're responsible for their own fate. They could choose to build a better future. The favorite sport of muslims and africans is "blame the european and the american" for everything.

    The asian who don't have a religion of hatred and destruction developped themselves better. For what reason ? Asian believe they're the master of their destiny.
    African believe that everything is caused by god or their past. Because they were invaded once during their history, they think that europeans are responsible for everything bad that happens in their country, negating their own responsibility.

    I despise Macron, but he said the truth. But it's not the job of a president to say the truth.
     
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    Why is it you insist that everyone is Either "just like you" or a Liberal Parasite ? Don't you know there are NORMAL people that agree with many things from both sides of the Isle. I will state, if I agree with you on something like this, we are good and can move forward. If I agree that SOME abortion should be allowed in the States to slow the population and prevent millions of welfare recipients, do I then become a parasite ? If so, you chase me to the other side ? Disagreements and solutions are what those guys did back in the late 1700s. Sitting around Taverns and Pubs drinking (god forbid) Alcohol and working it out in a majority solution that worked for all.
    I think Many of those liberals you pound would work with the right if only the right were not so demanding as to their agenda.
    You are so correct on Africa and having too many kids. I said this when I was 18 in 1983, I also said we need to stop allowing so many people into our country. Guess what, it was the powers to be (your republicans) that preached- Who will pick the fruit ? and or "it is my company and if I was to send it to Mexico or China, that is my business". They paid lobbyists to cover their butts and keep the hard working american from having a voice to KEEP good jobs here.
    NOw, the same people that cheered those rich guys and their RIGHTS to do what was best for them, are on the opposite side of the same argument. If today, some really rich guy said he had the cure to Africa, and pumped enough money into the PR campaign/ lobbyist / trump backing / Senate and house republican backing, your TYPE would be all on board for it... Those guys would make billions and you, a person that has nothing to do with the answer or the money would follow them right into the rabbit hole as a cheer leader. Or would you ? Would you go against something that is wrong ? Or, are you just a follower and cheerleader of hate against anything other than WHITE and just don't accept that is your interior motive without recognizing it ?
    This isn't or wouldn't be the first taxpayer dollar wasted elsewhere. Where you screaming about the Iraq war and it's money. Or did you FOLLOW and state that which was so untrue. We were there to preserve OUR freedom ?
     
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    Honestly, who can blame them, so much of what not to believe is always easier... If I were in europe, I would not floods of Africans coming into my country wither. Just like I did not want all the mexicans, nothing against them, but it kept my WAGE down for 30 plus years... When you have anyone that comes in and works cheaper, it trickles up POORLY... The rich gain and working class loses... Still the same thing here and a great point for Trump to run on.. That is how he won, lying as usual about the things we hate...
    This is all going to lead to all boarder closings.. The africans don't and iddnt care if they had too many kids. It was abouut the Sex, the rape, for the guys... They are ery uncilivided in many areas, not europes fault. Many African countries are doing good and under good leadership. CThe coorup. is a big problem and it is what happens when you put money in that type of persons hand... THe TYPE that has never had it and led an army to take over their country...
    Amazing how we as Humans can screw up such a great earth, with all our science and understanding now of EVERYTHING... we go backwards...
     
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    There seriously is no doubt about conservative christians pumping in millions of dollars in Africa.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ti-gay-conservative-evangelicals-9193593.html

    Oh pff... closely followed by Uganda and Zambia
     
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