Macron says Africa’s main problem is ‘7-8 children per woman,’

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  1. notme

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    What has this to do with "Europeans are just shifting to atheism in all its variation."?
     
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  2. Lil Mike

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    Well you're free to "accept" whatever makes you feel better I suppose.
     
  3. Lil Mike

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    Weird, I never made any such argument that "only governmental policies count."
     
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    The fact that as a consequence of African immigration French culture is changing very rapidly, will continue to change, and the France that everyone once knew will be lost forever. That national joie de vivre has been replaced by burkas and calls to prayer.

    One of the most iconic symbols of France was the Eiffel Tower. The new symbol is the Eiffel Tower being protected by a bullet proof plastic barrier. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rier-around-eiffel-tower-to-counter-terrorism

    Of course that won't stop the French, or Germans, from complaining about Donald Trump and his proposed immigration policies..
     
  5. notme

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    That's what I said. And that's a flaw.
     
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    It has changed very rapidly.
    The bulk of their immigrants are from their brutally lost wars in Africa in the late 1960's where they gave millions of African people who fought for them a French citizenship, including every single Jew. That's why France has the biggest Jewish population in Europe despite they cooperated with the nazi's to kill them all. If you excluded those from the 1960's and them poor buggers from Italy, Spain, Portugal and the UK,.. than you would see they hardly get immigrants to speak off... as in.. around 90% less.
     
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    ???
     
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    You went on and on that it somehow doesn't count since it was done by Americans but not by the American government. You never made the argument why that should matter.
     
  9. Lil Mike

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    In the list of things that the US is responsible for, African fertility doesn't show up.
     
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    I personnaly don't care you build a wall. The problem is that Trump wanted to force Mexico to pay. You're the one who decide, you pay.

    About burkas and niqab, they're forbidden by law.

    But yes, I think that a part of muslim population is a danger for french culture.
     
  11. notme

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    In the list of things,... Americans funnel massive amounts of money into impoverished Africa to spread the word of Christianity, to go forth and multiply that goes hand in hand to with the GOP's way to pull the plug of planned parenting. And so they play their roll in the massive increase of the population, that has as a consequence they move to Europe.
     
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  12. Lil Mike

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    It's really amazing to the links some anti American leftists will go to in order to blame the US for everything that ever has or ever will happen in the world.
     
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    To be fair, it's not the fault of american governement but evangelist churches are known to be particulary virulent in Africa. We can't blame the US at a whole, but evangelist american seems to play a role in it. The fact they're american is not that much relevant, fanatics are fanatics, no matter are their nationality.
     
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    The idea that American evangelicals are behind the high fertility in Africa sounds, on it's face, ridiculous. So far, I've seen no data or indication that's the case, nor even that American missionaries are the ones most active in Africa, or the difference between the Christianity brought to Africa by the European colonizers and the American version. Is the fertility of Southern Baptists in Kenya higher than Anglicans in Kenya?

    It's a silly argument that has in it's roots hatred of Christianity and of course, the Great Satan, the United States. It's totally devoid of logic, reason, and of course, data.
     
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    I was never intended to blame the USA. About the hatred of christianism, their is not as much reasons to hate christianism as islam but their is still a lot.
     
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    In other words--a vacuum.
     
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    It's not that you can deny my previous post. You're just whining.
     
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    I think I've pretty much denied every post of yours that I've come across. Your record is airtight with me!
     
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    Atheism isn't a vacuum.
     
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    I haven't seen you deny Christian groups lobbying around in Africa, nor did I see you deny the US government pulling the plug on planned parenthood. Thanks for trolling.
     
  21. Lil Mike

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    :no:
     
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    So much for denying it. Nothing in the last 4 posts. Just you trolling away wasting peoples time.
     
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    You do realize your entire point was a troll don't you? You never provided evidence or data to confirm anything you said. You made a rather stupid point and I helpfully pointed it out for you.

    You're welcome by the way.

    But of course if you disagree you are free to post data that evangelicals from the United States are responsible for the fertility increase in Africa. I would very much be interested in any real evidence you have.
     
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    Of course it is. It's an absence of belief, which leaves a space for other belief systems to take over.
     
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    The flyin-so-high Dutchman makes remarks... Woooooooo.... It's getting cold in here...
    What kindda privileges are about to fall out that big mouth "lad" ?
     

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