Macron says Africa’s main problem is ‘7-8 children per woman,’

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  1. Pisa

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    There's nothing about birthrates in the Independent article. Irrelevant.

    I asked for scientific studies, not news items.

    True, but why? There are no American - or other - evangelical missionaries in Muslim countries with high birthrates, so maybe the answer to why families in African countries have so many children lies elsewhere.

    A study published by Princeton lays the blame on local customs and lack of empowerment of women, rather than outside influences.

    http://uaps2007.princeton.edu/papers/70125

    A study by the African Peer Review Forum has also found local socio-cultural and economic factors to play a significant role, together with lack of education and the low status of women.

    http://kashambuzi.com/the-high-population-growth-rate-in-uganda/

    No mention of American evangelicals, sorry.
     
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    Atheism is not absence of belief. It's absence of religious belief. Atheists have their own systems of beliefs though. Communism is the most known instance of a system of non-religious beliefs. Not all atheists are communists, of course, but most communists are atheists. They simply substituted a religious belief system with a non-religious one.

    I guess humans need to rely on some belief system, be it religious or not, and this is where the real danger for our western civilization hides. We became so tolerant of a multitude of belief systems, even destructive ones, that we're losing our self-preservation instinct in favor of individual freedoms, forgetting we're basically a socially oriented species unable to survive each on his own. Balance is badly needed.
     
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    I don't have anything to discuss with an ignorant. Sorry.

    But the Brits have something to say funny I guess:

    Mind the merde: why can't French cities clean up after their dogs?
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    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/...-cities-clean-up-after-their-dogs-montpellier



    It was HUMAN POO all over French streets not so long ago... Thanks god they eventually learned where to sh.t although it was a bit too late. Today tho, it looks like the fascist Francois need to be taught something about poo once again !!!

    Lol...
     
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    Yes, with an ignorant. France is so fascist, freedom of expression, freedom of religion, so hard... It's always funny to see muslims call people fascism, when the name of their religion mean "submission". Islam is itself a fascism.

    We're not disciplined people.

    Your pitifull hatred for Europe and France is almost funny.
     
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    Few - if any - countries in the world can measure up to the cultural, civilizational, and generally high in every aspect level of France.

    I guess your enmity toward France stems mostly from its official recognition of the Armenian genocide.
     
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    We don't have no "SOLDIERS" on the streets of Europe day and night but in France...

    State of Curfew for almost 2 years... Helllooooo... Does it ring any bell in that Frankish dream you've been in? lol...
     
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    You wish...

    But it's so funny how fast the subject can change as soon as the Frank realizes the poo smell becomes inevitable :)
     
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    That's not fascism. Freedom is threatened by the behaviour of the governement, but against, you should look at the definition of fascism.

    About the soldiers, it's maybe because their is an army of barbaric muslims who kill regulary civilian in the street of France, their is a war on the soil of France caused by the religion of murder, rape and slavery. The soldiers in the street saved regulary civilian by shooting dead "peacefull" muslims acting as usual.

    15 years ago, they were no soldiers in the street of France, then Islam striked.
     
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    Goody simply hate the west, and France is, or I would say rather, was, one of the most important nation of west. We were the first to create an aircraft (montgolfière, if we don't consider kites), invented photography, the first prototype of cars (to be fair, it's german people who would develop them however), canned food, huge progress in medicine.

    By the way, as every country, our history is full of violence and horrors, but I don't know any country who had a peacefull history, and outside of that, my country brought to country countless of great artists and scientists. We even abolished slavery in the 14th century, unfortunately, it didn't survived the 16th century.

    But Goody, as a good muslim, hate otherness, everything which isn't muslim. A part of this hatred is because he know that in milleniums, people will remember more the western civilization as a whole because every inovation brought to the world rather the pitifull and insignificant muslim civilization.
     
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    He's generally right.

    African children will make up nearly half the world’s poorest people by 2030 if nothing is done to reverse existing trends,

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-...ermine-generation-african-children-odi-report

    (However 7-8 is not the mean, but rather the median that creates a mean of around 5-6 when coupled with wholly infertile people)

    The issue is not an increase in fertility, but a decrease in mortality.

    The cultures were just not ready for Western medicine. If we introduce the medicine we have t be more musular about liberal cultural influence.

    Women's emancipation coupled with access to birth control is the answer. This should be a precondition to large-scale Western medical support. Seemingling heartless, though.
     
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    Lol... You should be Pierre... Because rest of the Europe is disciplined this way or the other by the Germanic tribes harsh implementations.
    They already started turning Europe into themselves and guess what even America can't do sh.t about it because they are doing it in a perfectly professional way. America said that it was supposed to be like in Germany in everywhere around the world, starting from the European continent, then Putin happened and now the Germanic tribe is having hard time accomplishing that goal because the Franks are resisting, they believe their sh.t don't stink.

    Those enlightenment days are over, so is your mission. Romanov made Napoleon ran away. You got two options, be Germanic without no resistance, or get Germaned by force (Bataclan).

    The Germanic tribe got 80%, while the Dutch got 70% individuality level...

    Brits, Americans, Canadians, Aussies got all above 90%, Danish 70ish%, Scandinavians 70-80%...

    You??? The Franks? They got 45% Turks got 42% Greeks got 35%, Bulgarians 37%...

    So the Frankish is just a disgrace in Western Europe... They are like "spoiled student" where they get straight A's along with Germanics and Brits while they are barely C students... These are ugly truths about your weak societal structure. You are not helping Europe to move on the next phase, but rather slowing it down... That's why curfews must be declared so all those leftists who were spreading the word about wrongdoings in Europe and in the French Fascist State should be lost, arrested, imprisoned or eliminated without permissions from the bureaucracy... Charles De Gaulle is still alive today dude... Macron's gonna go and a more authoritarian leader will rule Fwans because Fwans has weak society compare to rest of the Western Europe, because they are meant to change it and because their 43% turnout rate is nothing.

    Open them eyes wide now you !
     
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    We know we're not living anymore our glorious days. We're proud but not blind. Our history didn't ended with Napoleon, even if Napoleon destroyed even more France than the rest of Europe, but in 1940, the best is still to protect our legacy.

    The rest of Europe is at crisis too, especially the latin part, Spain and Italy are even more in a deep crisis. Brits are far from their glorious days too.
     
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    If Joseph Proudhon was alive, he'd probably leave this meme here:

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    Your country brought death, torture, massacres, slaughters and genocides to this planet... PERIOD !
     
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    Death, yes, torture, yes, massacres, yes, slaughters, yes, genocides no. You forgot slavery too.

    The difference between my country and yours is that we both brought all of those on earth (at the difference my country didn't commited any genocide, the vichy governement helped the nazis however), but we brought other things.

    It's the huge difference between christianism and islam, both of those religions commited horrors across the world, but one was able to do something else than killing, and it's not islam.
     
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    How did we get to that "religious" comparison out of the societal structure which was brought up to make Pierre grasp better the problem the Fwench truly has?

    Look Voltaire, you don't sound like one of those bad kids having swagguhs with thugs around that corner down the street trynna find rich kids to beat the sh.t out of'em to steal stuff from'em... So I'm gon be honest with you now. Yeah, lemme be that wise black dude with Braves cap on telling young guns get a job, helping big mamas carry groceries upstairs, staying away from gangs, getting their GED done n sh.t... Whadevuh...

    I ain't no foe to you aright Fabien? I'm just tryinna help you understand the real deal here. I just want you to see the big picture dawg.

    Fwench has been weak and still insisting on staying as weak as they can against the changin, shiftin, twistin, twirlin global "politiques".
    Even America can't do no sh.t about this dude, you need to see it.

    "Smooth transition" is here. All that inconvenience is in between the two ruling cliques one of whom thinks Westphalia is already dead, particularly since 1990, therefore the world just needs some little "retouches", like "little bombs from those little cute drones here and there" to make sure the demographics are growing in the way they are supposed to be, forming the basis of the global society... And the other clique says no, Westphalia can still be a use for a while in a scale of things from creating "reasons" for war (the phoenix theorem) to render the bloom of new system out of the ashes of the old, to -as you nicely put there- getting the lagged societies like Fwans into a "discipline" to attempt to take them up to the same level to Germanic tribe, therefore to make them ready for the next phase which will sooner or later eventually require that stereotypical societal structures all around the world.

    So to cut the long bs short, the former says; "I got the muscles, I'm the big bro, so I'll do it by myself and while doing it, I don't need to discuss no sh.t with y'all, aright?". The latter says; "Dude, enough is enough, you got the muscles n stuff but we're many and hungry, we say if we do it we do it our way in our own yard, and that's it. We want you to do the same and mind your own business in your own damn yard as we do. You can watch me rollin, and tell me what's wrong but you just can't stick that Commonwealth nose into ma own business and take measures as you own me dawg... I ain't lettn you do all that"

    As you can see, this way or the other, globalism will be here as reality of our lives. Are we going to live long enough to witness it, that I don't know but Jean-Marie, you must snap out of it dude..!
     
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    Yes, they do have soldiers on the streets of Europe... after every terrorist attack.

    All because of Muslim terrorists, my friend. No?
     
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    No. Last time I checked Academi consisted of full Methodist bastards. No?
     
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    Which naturally leads to Chesterton. " The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything".
     
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    Sometimes the discussion of France is not intended to be critical but instead an expression of concern for the direction France is taking.

    It's not just the French who will miss the French culture and all it had to offer the world, but all those who have spent time there as well, and have gotten to know something of the romance and joy France and the French people had to offer. That appears to be disappearing, with no real idea of what might take its place.
     
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    Your responses are getting ever more juvenile.
     
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    Juvenile? What's that? Prison? I know Juventus...
     
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    Except that he never made that rather vacuous comment.
     
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    And that is why they will all be Muslim in a few decades.
     
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    I find your thinking peculiarly opaque. You think, for instance, that American belief in a flat earth will inevitably lead to speaking Chinese?
     

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