Harvard study: CNN, NBC Trump coverage 93 percent negative

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  1. Borat

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    Hmm, I thought my explanation was clear but let me try again:

    -I am not a one issue voter and I agree with Trump on many other issues - immigration, jobs, outsourcing etc..
    -if I was a one issue voter, Russia would not be that issue, it would not be in my top 25 issues list
    -I don't buy a single word of this entire absurd, fake-news/liberal hysteria driven Trump/Russia nonsense. No one outside of the liberal/media bubble does. It's witch hunt, pure and simple and liberal lunatics are not fooling anyone
    -My disagreement with Trump's views on Russia notwithstanding, I will take the republican party on Russia, over the party of spineless Sanders, Obama, Franken, Schumer etc any day.

    Just like with everything else you're wrong on my "partisanship", I am an independent who voted for Gore and Kerry and wanted to vote for Hillary in 2008, ended up not voting for either nominee. You of all people should talk about partisanship. Duh
     
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    93 percent of everything Trump does is negative, to a sane world. America's alt-right and white nationalist movement (Trumpers) are a small minority.
     
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    Oh, I know how liberals watch and read the news and see no bias. I don't have to hear what Fox has to say about it and in fact I don't watch Fox. I use my own eyes and ears and see first hand how biased they are. Only 7% of MSM journalists are Republican, and every survey I've read shows they are overwhelmingly liberal.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...bubble-real-journalism-jobs-east-coast-215048
     
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    Says the guy weaned on 20 years of rightwing Hate Radio. God only knows what you've read in fanatical rightwing websites.
     
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    Says the guy with TDS who listens and reads left wing hate propaganda.
     
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    Then you preferred to keep your doctor and lost him while your insurance premiums skyrockets by 200% under Obama. :banana:
     
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    As if you people had a better system. Never happen....Today's dysfunctional GOP can only destroy, never build.
     
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    If you had an issue with that. Trump married an immigrant, she outsources jobs.

    Would it have been a problem if it was proven that Hillary won the elections thanks to the Russians?
    I bet it would be a nr1 problem. lol

    55% of the Trump supporters don't believe Trump junior met with the Russians, even though Trump junior openly admits to this. says a lot how much of an opinion of them is worth.
     
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    We love his tweets. He's the Snow Flake Melter and his tweets are his fiery weapon!

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    If I had an issue with that, it would not be with Trump, his immigrant wife and their outsourcing.... My issues are with policies and bad laws, not people LEGALLY doing what's BEST for them.

    Not at all if the American citizens voted for Hillary, Russian citizens were not caught voting illegally and no evidence of voting machine being compromised was presented. I'd be perfectly fine with the outcome. BTW of all the competitors, Hillary was my #2 choice anyway, and my #1 choice in 2008. ;)

    I can't fault them for ignoring fake news and idiots who cry wolf all day long. You and they were forewarned that this is exactly what happens to boys who cry wolf, weren't you?... At any rate, a much higher percentage of Trump haters are suffering from a severe and incurable form of TDS and it's not in any way, shape or form better for them or for the country
     
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    Oh, you know how liberals watch and read the news? They all do it exactly the same way? Do all conservatives also do it exactly the same way? What you seem to be saying is that you use your own eyes and ears while ALL liberals do not. Broad generalizations are dangerous no matter what you are talking about. Why stop at liberal/conservative? How about all white people think a certain way while all black people think a different way? All Christians think exactly the same way while all Jews think in unison and differently? The dichotomies are endless and entirely fabricated - straight/gay, American/illegal, northerner/southerner, red,blue... So, all the people within each of these groups think exactly the same way? How do you compare the thought process of the gay southerner to the Christian liberal? Divisions make easy marks for people with agendas. Always has. The Nazis and the Christian crusades are two very agregious examples.

    There's that MSM again. That phrase was coined by the conservative Republican machine to undermine the lagitamacy of the media that didn't agree with them. Rather than make better cases for their cause of shifting wealth to the rich, they chose to slander their biggest watch dog.

    If people are not supposed to get their information from the main stream media (printed, broadcast and organized news outlets) then where from? The forums are just digested news and propaganda. Same for word of mouth. While it's vogue to smear the MSM, it's not based on anything real. Also, mark my word that when the phrase MSM loses it's sparkle, just like "liberal media elite" did, another equally misleading saying will replace it.
     
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    Nice try with the brain washing Republican talking points. Insurance premiums did rise under the Obama administration and it makes good propoganda when taken out of context.

    However, insurance premiums were on the rise well before Obama took office. More important is that the rate of the rise slowed considerably under his administration and then started rising sharply again after trump took office and the Republicans took control of Congress. Insurance companies site the uncertainty of the policy making for the reason behind the current increase.

    Don't try to blame the incompetence of current government on the past leaders (Obama, Bush, congress, etc.) The new leadership in all branches of government need to take responsibility for what is happening under their watch and stop with all the excuses.
     
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    Strange you did not mention deductibles i wonder why.
     
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    No need to wonder. I was responding to your post that stated "insurance premiums skyrockets by 200% under Obama." Which is a fabricated and misleading talking point.

    I don't care for insurance or insurance companies and believe it's all a ponsi scheme and a shell game. We're paying for the baby boomer tsunami. Insurance companies had it good for a long time. They've been warning of this aging population boom and how things were unsustainable. This is all just a bailout without the name. Republicans or Democrats would have done something to bail them out. Maybe similar approach, maybe different. The end result would have been the same. Money out of middle class pockets.
     
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    Not my post at all...
     
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    Apologies. Should have noticed it wasn't your post.
     
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    Yep, a good portion of us independents as well.

    So, what exactly are you going to do about it?

    I know, nothing. If you did attempt to impeach him a lot of Americans are going to be watering a tree that's awfully dry.
     
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    You previously said "I agree with Trump on many other issues - immigration, jobs, outsourcing"
    So you're just looking the other way when the president helps immigrants to outsource jobs. lol

    Yeah right. You lot went over and over and over and over and over her e-mails and again and again and again you didn't find something incriminating. You lot only let go when she lost the race to become president. You lot would be screaming up and down the entire country if there was a hint of Russian help. lol

    Of course you can fault them, when the source is Donald Jr himself. What this means, is that a majority Trump supporters refuse to accept any criticism on their leader as a bunch of good little brainwashed north koreans.
     
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    Like I said I support his pro-America policies, events and campaigns, I support his cancellation of the TPP and his stance on NAFTA and other trade agreements, on outsourcing, I support the fact that he uses his bully pulpit to promote "Made in America". These are very very good things for the american people, don't you agree?


    That has what exactly to do with me willing to accept Hillary's victory if no voting machine tampering and no illegal voting by ineligible Russians were alleged?

    I can't fault them, unlike you, they are not glued to CNN and MSNBC all day long, unlike you they actually have lives. And they have completely stopped paying attention to the boy who has cried wolf too many times, that the MSM is. And frankly they could not care less about all these absolutely ridiculous manufactured non-existent Russian controversies. How many times do you need to hear that no one outside your bubble believes a word you libs/progs and your lying media spews any more and therefore no one cares. :D
     
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    You're just totally avoiding your previous point of immigration and outsourcing since I commented the president married an immigrant who outsources. Your previous post was even that you suddenly approve outsourcing.. lol
    flip flop flip flop

    The point was that if Hillary had that hint of Russian influence, you GOP would have been all over her just like that e-mail thing that the GOP just could not let go.

    It was the GOP who invented the thing "alternative facts" and I indeed do fault them for not believing Trump jr himself when he says something negative. It has nothing to do with CNN and MSNBC.
     
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    Huh, I did not approve outsourcing, I approved Trump's anti-outsourcing, "Made in America" views, actions, policies and events. I am not GOP and I don't blame the Dems for this manufactured controversy, that's what they are expected to do. I blame the lying dishonest media that's supposed to be neutral and unbiased no matter what.

    And I don't care who invented alternative facts, I don't see how this even begins to refute the fact that the media is lying, twisting, misleading, spewing fake news all day long and is justifiably despised and ignored by extremely wide swathes of the american people. They have only themselves to blame.
     
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    You also approved his immigrant wife outsourcing.

    Trump lies plenty with his alternative facts. And the point remains that even when a Trump tells a truth that is seen as negative, than his supporters deny the facts. It's just outright absurd to blame others for the way Trump supporters refuse to accept critisism. It's the way they are.

    And you're just right in there... with I don't like outsourcing or immigrants,.. except Trumps immigrant outsourcing wife. lol
     
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