Hi everyone, it's like me in stuff, your lord and savior, The Great Satan. So like, we gotta lot of Russia collution experts rolling around these days and I thought we would get their opinions on past Russian collution events to establish their "credibility". So like, what I've done is set up a "credibility quiz". Each case will have 2 answers, both extreme, but you gotta explain why you picked A or B. Here's Russia collution case 1... I'll post the next question soon. The Obama telling Putin he'd be more flexible after the election. Is this collution? Is Obama a traider? The Obama goes and tells the American people how he's gonna be with Russia, but tells Putin to wait till after the election and he'll have more "flexibility"? Wtf does that mean. Does the Obama get a total pass? A = The Obama is a democrat and they get a total pass for any and all interactions with America's enemies. Telling the American people 1 thing, and the Russians another, to win an election, is totally cool and I'm all for it. If you think Obama colluded with Russia, you're racist. B = The Obama should be tried and convicted of treason. Lying to the American people while working with the evil Russians behind our backs is unforgivable. I highly value honesty and that's why I think Obama should at least be investigated.
Next question... Hillary and Bill Clinton. https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...s-as-bill-made-500g-on-moscow-speech.amp.html So like, sanctions on Russia are being debated. Bill gets a 500k bribe/speaking fee and suddenly Hillary sides with Russia. Sounds like collution to me. I mean, there should be laws against selling influence. A = The Clinton's are clean and pure Russia was lucky to have an outstanding person like Bill in their presents. Well worth 500k. And Hillary opposing sanctions was a coninsidence. I give them a total pass B = Selling out the American people to our enemies is a crime called Treason. I hope they are tried and convicted. Politicians need to fear selling the people out.
Typically dishonest of you. Trying to set up a scenario where you try and put words in other people's mouths.
Case 1 A = you give Obama a pass B = Obama colluded with the Russians and should be tried for treason
Pretend Trump secretly was telling Putin 1 thing, and lying to the American people to get elected. Would this count as collution?
You would think our local Russian Truthers, mccarthyite, collusion experts, would be here explaining why Obama is innocent and Trump is guilty. I mean, really now, shouldn't they want some credibility? If they had a tad of credibility they wouldn't have to post 10 nothing Burger threads a day people would take their first threat seriously.
Yeah that smug little Ronstar had to point out your gaffe but trader was actually a more apt description of comrade quid pro quo Obama who like a gushing little school girl thought himself Putin's equal. No doubt the Russians laughed until they cried.
Of course! This had nothing to do with attacking our Democratic system. He was the President. The President negotiates. But he doesn't negotiate our Democratic system, like these numskulls that are in the White House today did. This was a pretty dumb question. You have any intelligent ones? No proof, no evidence, ... not even an indication that there was any wrong doing whatsoever. Completely based on inuendo, and no facts And here's the problem with this story The same Fox "reporter" author of a fake, ridiculous, and completely debunked fantasy about the Clinton's being behind the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich. Which was later retracted by Fox A complete embarrassment for Ms. Zimmerman. Any more? I didn't think so...
So Obama gets a pass. He tells the people 1 thing to get elected, while telling Putin another... For whatever reason. If Trump did the same thing, would you give him a pass too? So bill didn't give a speech for 500k to a Russian bank and then Hillary didn't suddenly oppose Russian sanctions? Got it...
LOL I can't believe you fell for that. All he did was put Trump's conversation with the Russian ambassador over a picture of Obama and Medvedev. Took the bait.
Gets a pass for what? What did he tell the people and not Putin? Or the other way around... Did he discuss with some President that Mexico was not going to pay for the wall, and then tell the people that they were? Oh wait no... that was Trump.... If Trump ever negotiated for the good of the country instead of himself, I wouldn't just give him a pass. I'd throw him a Party!! Especially if it involved reducing nuclear armament! Huh? Oh... I remember now. You can't expect to have a discussion with alt-right fans without them throwing a strawman. No!!! Hillary did not "suddenly" oppose Russian sanctions. It was the position of the Obama administration. You might have gotten away with criticizing Obama for it, because it was a bad position. But it was his position. Not Hillary's.. See? You learned something today that you would never have learned from the AFM (Alternative Facts Media)
Talking and negotiating with a foreign government official about American foreign policy and sanctions while President is called diplomacy. It is one of the President's enumerated powers (Article II, Section 2), and part of his job. Doing the same thing during an election, and before taking the oath of office the first time is a violation of the Hatch Act, and illegal as hell. Here endeth the lesson...
Here's an official "collution with Russia" pass. So its ok to tell Americans 1 thing, but tell Russia another, to win an election. Got it
It's kind of like a 9/11 truther but instead of it being the US government in a huge vast conspiracy it's the Russian government. One was about buildings going down and the other has to do with the vote count in an election. A Russia truther is someone that thinks the United States the worlds only super power with agency's like NSA, CIA, FBI and others were somehow overcome by the regional power known as Russia to change the actual vote count reported. Not even to say the allies of the United States such as UK, France and Germany that at the time stood at risk if Trump won the election and knew Russia didn't like Hillary.
You just made a thread near identical to this about several days ago; http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ught-on-hot-mic-colluding-with-russia.510183/ I responded then although I can't find it in my history?