UPDATE: Single-Payer Unanimously Defeated in Senate, Dozens of Dems Vote 'Present'.....

UPDATE - The Daines amendment received a vote this afternoon, and it was unanimously defeated, 57-0. A number of in-cycle, vulnerable Democrats voted against the awful bill, with dozens of Democrats (including several with obvious presidential ambitions) pulling an Obama maneuver by voting "present." Liberal members didn't want to play along with a GOP "stunt," but they didn't want to go on the record against single-payer either. Less left-wing members wanted no part of single-payer-based attacks back home, so they gave House Democrats' plan a public thumbs-down:

Phil Kerpen

✔ @kerpen


HR676/SAmdt340 fails 0-57. Donnelly, Heitkamp, King, Manchin, Nelson, Tester only Dem NO votes. All in cycle. Rest vote present.

2:05 PM - Jul 27, 2017

Steve Daines

✔ @SteveDaines


60% of House Dems endorsed this legislation & today not 1 Democrat Senator is willing to stand by and defend their socialized solution

2:09 PM - Jul 27, 2017

During tonight's upcoming vote-a-rama, Democrats are expected to serve up a slew of "poison pill" amendments designed to embarrass or jam Republicans with politically unpalatable choices. The idea is to make the process painful, exploit divisions, and create fodder for future attacks. This is a bipartisan standard operating procedure in budget votefests. But that blade can cut in both directions. Hence this clever little gambit by Montana Republican Steve Daines, as reported the Washington Examiner's David Drucker:.....snip~

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybe...o-force-dems-to-vote-on-single-payer-n2360523


Imagine that. Seems one Repub took it to the Demos and put them on the spot over their single payer solution. What happened? Isn't their new slogan a better deal? I thought they believed in that. What say ye?

 

They've been doing that just fine on their own.

 

Indeed they have. But you know the Demos, they will want to take credit for something to thwart Repubs.

 

They've got their own single payer amendment coming up

 

“The Democratic caucus will not participate in the Republicans’ sham process,” said Sanders spokesman Josh Miller-Lewis. “No amendment will get a vote until we see the final legislation and know what bill we are amending. Once Republicans show us their final bill, Sen. Sanders looks forward to getting a vote on his amendment that makes clear the Senate believes the United States must join every major country and guarantee health care as a right, not a privilege.”

 

What was this an amendment to? Some secret bill the GOP won't let anyone see lol

 

I thought the Democrats wanted to stick everyone with the same system that has spectacularly failed our veterans?

Why did their socialist feet suddenly get cold?

 

Sen. Steve Daines is proposing an amendment to the Republican healthcare bill that would implement a government-run, single-payer insurance system in the U.S. The Montana Republican doesn't support single-payer healthcare. But in a bit of political gamesmanship often seen in Congress, Daines wants to force vulnerable Democratic senators running for re-election in red states in 2018 to take a position on the liberal healthcare policy, which is gaining currency on the Left...Daines' single-payer amendment is a carbon copy of one offered in the House by Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich. The Conyers bill, with more than 100 Democratic cosponsors, proposes to create a program the legislation describes as "Medicare for All." According to the bill's language, "all individuals residing in the United States would be covered."

All individuals, not just citizens. Estimates suggest that a national single-payer regime -- which would effectively eliminate most of the private insurance market -- comes with a price tag of $32 trillion in new spending over ten years, or roughly $3.2 trillion per year. The entire federal budget in 2016 was $3.9 trillion. This plan would require enormous tax increases on the middle and working class, would massively disrupt or uproot most Americans' healthcare arrangements, and would result in inferior health outcomes, driven by government-run care and rationing. It is a very popular idea among committed statists, who comprise the base of the Democratic Party.

But it's at least a cheeky and interesting move by Daines, who's likely channeling many Republicans' desire to use single-payer as a cudgel against swing state or tossup district Democrats.......snip~ Same link.


lol nah......just some Repub playing with those Demos heads.

 

Brilliant.

 

Lol what republican bill? The one nobody has even seen yet? Wow they're making the obama care process look normal and open lol

 

GOP proposing amendments to a bill nobody has seen that they don't want the house to pass lmao
This is some keystone cops **** right here lol

 

Remember when Republicans pretended they cared about whether a bill was properly considered, analyzed and debated and not rushed through without knowing what it was?

 

Now they're voting for amendments to a bill nobody had seen that they demand the house NOT pass
Seriously wtf is going on lol

 

Oh you know they do. But they want to be the one to bring that out.

 

They don't want to vote for amendments to a bill they haven't seen. Where's the bill? Why are they hiding it?

 

It's called WINNING!!!, Amigo. Climb aboard.

Seriously though, "Hey guys, we need you to promise you won't pass this bill that we are going to pass, okay?"

****ing hilarious.

 

Or, they could stop dinking around and pass some legislation.

I dunno, I'm just spitballing crazy ideas, don't mind me.

 

Well at this point, they are trying to rush it through, anything, and their vacations are moments away. I have little doubt, a major portion of them, want to wait until something better shows up.

 

I'll keep that in mind for 2018. Stubbs the cat is looking like a solid choice.

 

House: "What's this bill say"
Senate: "We don't know yet but we know it sucks"

 

Oh that's what someone meant when they said that Democrats would soon be able to show whether they really support single payer???

Well I guess they don't really. I mean no one REALLY wants single payer in America, that will be double the price. We want private insurance.

 

The Amendment was H.B. 676, which makes private health insurance illegal; places hospitals under de facto government control; makes healthcare professionals de facto government employees; and effectively makes private for-profit hospitals illegal.

 

Since when did the VA system become a single payor system?

Is that what they teach you from Fox news?

 

Funny, the single payer medicare program is one of the most popular programs in American, and delivers health care services at a substantially lower cost than private insurance.

Let us know what percentage of people REALLY don't want single payer Medicare, and get back to us.

 

Not my question: it's an amendment to what?