Global temperatures COOLER now than when Gore won Nobel Prize in 2007

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Oops. Damn those pesky facts. I wonder what the excuse will be this time for Gore? Will the far left finally admit that their theories are not absolute?


    Via: https://www.thegwpf.com/al-gores-poor-track-record/

    Meteorologist Joe Bastardi explains: “Al Gore was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize based on warnings of future events — the same future events that have not happened. The fact is that global temperatures from 2006-2007 while Gore was basking in the glory of his apocalypse-driven fame were warmer than they are now, and we are still falling off the Super El Niño peak. Additionally, much of the time in-between was lower than what it was in the run-up to ‘An Inconvenient Truth.'” Bastardi added: “Fact: Without monkeying around and ‘finding’ warming, temps have changed very little during 20 year AGW hysteria period.”

    [Climate Depot Note: The Bastardi graph uses the the global 2m temperature anomaly. There are several different temperature datasets, two satellite datasets (UAH & RSS) and several surface datasets that may show somewhat different temperature anomalies. Claims of “hottest year” or “hottest decade” are debunked here: Load of bollocks: 2016 allegedly ‘hottest year’ by unmeasureable 1/100 of a degree – While satellites show ‘pause’ continuesFormer Obama Official Mocks ‘Hottest Year on Record’ – Temps Within Margin of Error & MIT climate scientist on ‘hottest year’: ‘The hysteria over this issue is truly bizarre’]

    Bastardi explained: “I am glad Al Gore has his new movie out. It reminded me of Irena Sendler, who he beat out for the Nobel Prize. Because it gave me a chance to write on someone whose story should be known and once again expose someone who has gotten rich off something that can’t hold a candle to the bravery of people in the era that Irena Sendler exemplified…Just what did she do? From this link: “Irena Sendlerowa was a Polish woman who, along with her underground network, rescued 2,500 Jewish children in Poland during World War II. Many of this number were already outside of the Ghetto and in hiding.”

    More Bastardi here: https://patriotpost.us/opinion/5066


    http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/08...r-now-than-when-gore-won-nobel-prize-in-2007/
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    2016 Hit Records For Global Temperature And Climate Extremes
    For global temperatures, last year surpassed the previous record-holder: 2015.

    According to the annual, peer-reviewed State of the Climate report, it was also a year of other extremes and records, including the highest sea levels and lowest sea ice in the Arctic and Antarctica. And, it was one of the worst years for droughts.

    The 299-report, published by the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, relies on the work of hundreds of scientists in 60 countries. It shows that 2016 was "very extreme and it is a cause for concern," says NOAA climate scientist Jessica Blunden, a co-editor of the report.

    Blunden says that a strong El Nino in the first part of 2016 was a contributing factor, helping push up global temperatures, but that is by no means the sole cause.

    NPR's Christopher Joyce reports for our Newscast unit, "The report notes that these changes are consistent with projections of human-caused climate change."

    Last year also witnessed new records for the greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide and methane.

    "The annual increases in methane and nitrous oxide were pretty much in line with their decadal trends, but the rise in global carbon dioxide of 3.5 [parts per million] was the largest year-over-year increase observed in the 58-year measurement record," Blunden said.

    "This brought the global average carbon dioxide concentration for 2016 to 402.9 ppm," surpassing 400 ppm for the first time in modern records or ice core records that go back nearly 800,000 years, she said.

    Some other highlights of the report, as collated by The Associated Press:

    "- At any given time, nearly one-eighth of the world's land mass was in severe drought. That's far higher than normal and "one of the worst years for drought," said report co-author Robert Dunn of the United Kingdom Met Office.

    "- Extreme weather was everywhere. Giant downpours were up. Heat waves struck all over the globe, including a nasty one in India. Extreme weather contributed to a gigantic wildfire in Canada.

    "- Global sea level rose another quarter of an inch (3.4 millimeters) for the sixth straight year of record high sea levels.

    "- There were 93 tropical cyclones across the globe, 13 percent more than normal. That included Hurricane Matthew that killed about 1,000 people in Haiti.

    "- The world's glaciers shrank — for the 37th year in a row — by an average of about 3 feet (1 meter).

    "- Greenland's ice sheet in 2016 lost 341 billion tons of ice (310 billion metric tons). It has lost 4400 billion tons (4000 billion metric tons) of ice since 2002."
    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...s-for-global-temperature-and-climate-extremes


     
  3. aenigma

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    funny since i keep hearing in europe every year
    warmest year globbaly and local ever since record (1830)

    sorry for the dutch links but to proof my point

    http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/wetenschap/1.2860318 (2016)
    https://www.demorgen.be/wetenschap/2015-was-warmste-jaar-ooit-gemeten-b671c882/ (2015)
    http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20141221_01440527 (2014)
    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/2656/Globa...-zesde-warmste-jaar-op-aarde-sinds-1850.dhtml (2013 only 6th warmest ever damn)(local belgium)

    http://www.dewereldmorgen.be/artikels/2012/11/16/zelfs-met-koel-najaar-2012-warmste-jaar-ooit-in-vs (2012 hottest ever for us up to that point)
    https://www.demorgen.be/wetenschap/-2011-is-warmste-jaar-ooit-b17ffae8/ (2011)
    https://www.demorgen.be/wetenschap/2010-was-warmste-jaar-ooit-b2748530/ (2010)
    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/2656/Globa...te-decennium-ooit-2009-op-vijfde-plaats.dhtml (2009 5th spot and talk of hottest decade ever)

    and so on
    kind of odd to see the world cooling if you hear the oposite every year from all the newspapers here


    and ofcourse 2017 first half secund hottest ever
    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/2656/Globa...-jaarhelft-2017-was-tweede-warmste-ooit.dhtml
     
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    Blurryface Well-Known Member

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    Climate Depot?

    BBBBBBBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    Fraud.
     
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    By 0.1 degree, well within the uncertainty range but hey, whatever makes scary headlines.

    Oh, no trend in droughts or storms. 3.4 mm is 13/100 of an inch. Greenland is gaining back it's ice it lost in 15/16. Like I said, whatever makes scary headlines.
     
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    Well That's inconvenient!

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    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    You think Gore's claims have proven right?

    Climate change warrior Al Gore's Nashville estate expends '21 times more energy than the average US home uses per year' .

    I don't want to hear one more g-d damn word about MY carbon footprint from this pig.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4758152/Al-Gore-s-mansion-uses-21-times-energy-average.html

    He's like a crooked preacher who preaches on "sin" and then turns out to be a libertine.

    Gore's 'guzzling more electricity in one year than the average American family uses in 21 years' in a new report published by the National Center for Public Policy Research.

    Fat Al Gore, The Carbon Pig, consumed 230,889 kilowatt hours at his lavish, 20-room, 10,070 square-foot mansion in Nashville.

    The 'average annual electricity consumption for a US residential utility customer was 10,812 kilowatt hours, an average of 901 kWh per month.'

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    'It's frustrating if you're an environmentalist because Gore sets himself up as a prophet - but he's actually a fraud and a charlatan.

    'You've got to ring the bell of hypocrisy here. It's like a religious leader cheating on his wife.'

    Carbon Austerity for thee,
    Palatial Mansions for me!

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4758152/Al-Gore-s-mansion-uses-21-times-energy-average.html
     
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    Proof the Gore Effect is real

    "The phenomenon that leads to unseasonably cold temperatures, driving rain, hail, or snow whenever Al Gore visits an area to discuss global warming. Hence, the Gore Effect."

    --Peter Scowen, the Globe and Mail, March 31, 2009.

    After a decade of research, we have scientific proof.
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    Gore spoke at Harvard that Wednesday.

    That is anecdotal.

    Now comes the proof from Climate Depot:

    Global temperatures COOLER now than when Gore won Nobel Prize in 2007 AL GORE’S POOR TRACK RECORD -- An inconvenient truth: Global temps were warmer when Al Gore won the 2007 Nobel Prize than today, even after the 2015/16 super El Nino.

    Thus, giving Gore a Nobel Peace Prize cooled the Earth.

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/08/proof-gore-effect-is-real.html#more
     
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    I don't care about gore. I listen to 90-100% of publishing climate scientists and their overwhelming data.
     
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    For those that care the plot in the article is legit. That dataset is the CFSR. It is a reanalysis of the entire state of the global atmosphere and as such those data points in the plot are true global mean temperature anomalies. Keep in mind though that this dataset uses xDVAR techniques for data assimilation and GFS (the premiere NOAA weather model) physics for expectation analysis. That makes it a pretty accurate dataset, but it also means that many skeptics on here will dismiss it out-right since the data has been heavily post processed. Anyway, here are the nitty gritty details on how the assimilation and bias corrections work for those that really want to learn how this stuff works.

    http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/2010BAMS3001.1
    http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/sup...01.1/suppl_file/10.1175_2010bams3001.2.s1.pdf
     
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    Fake news

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    Atmospheric temperatures only?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you need other than the actual temperatures you are experiencing? Mars temperatures?
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Well if you do not like Gore then you must like Monckton
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    Reanalysis datasets typically contain dozens or even hundreds of properties for each grid cell. The CFSR is no different. The plot in the OP's article just happen to show temperature anomalies, but the dataset is complete enough to actually initialize weather or climate models at any point in time and have them do a hindcast.

    One thing I forgot to mention...the CFSR global mean temperature anomaly from the Joe Bastardi plot in the article the OP cited actually shows 0.17C of warming over the last decade. That falls inline with many other non-reanalysis datasets. It also agrees well with other independently developed reanalysis datasets as well. And the whole dataset from 1979 to present shows warming at the generally agreed upon rate too. So if you (and I don't mean you personally) are an AGW skeptic the Joe Bastardi plot (and CFSR in general) is the exact opposite of what you want to be presenting for your side because 1) it shows warming and 2) it relies on extensive data assimilation and post processing techniques which skeptics do not like.
     
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    But the BEST analysis does not concur with this
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    You mean the best analysis that said we would be in an ice age in the 70s or the ones that said Manhattan and Florida would be underwater by now?
     
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    No I mean Berkeley Earth
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Both claims you made are false. Show me the evidence - and I don't mean the fake Time cover about global cooling that Trump's buddies came up with.
     
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    Which is a rate of ~ 1 foot per century. The globe can adapt to ~ 1 inch sea level rise per decade. But the alarmists do not care about magnitude. Infinitesimal change will set them off into frenzied precautionary principle convulsions.
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ahh yes - the alarmists are back with cartoon and photoshop attacks. Kind of appropriate.
     
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    There seem to be a number of inconvenient truths, no? Gore needs everyone's money to "solve" a problem that many aren't seeing evidence of by instating mechanisms which he isn't interested in having applied to his life. Typical...
     
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    No one has been more debunked than the hypocrite Gore. While he lives high on the hog you want me to walk to work....but you won't.
     
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    Did you listen to a British court calling Gore's movie fiction?
     

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