If you are not capable of Immediately answering this easy question ... Then you're not Presidential

^^^^ When you are beaten in a debate.... just change the subject and ignore facts already provided.

 

November of last year: Islamic student ran over a crowd of students.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-state-university-student-dead-driving-crowd-stabbing/story?id=43821371
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/29/us/ohio-state-university-attack/

 

One a year is not regular. More women were raped, more children abused, and more people killed by texting drivers and drunk drivers since this morning than Islamic terror events in this country on an annual basis.

 

Good for him. I look forward to the designation of terrorist orgs for white supremacist groups. I'm sure he'll be doing that soon. Then he'll be taking guns away from fetishists and malcontents.

 

Yes, I knew about that. 9 months ago. I have a better chance of being killed this afternoon by a drunk driver than being injured by an Islamic attack.

 

Too bad he didn't identify the armed Leftist groups who rolled into Charlottesville from out of town looking for a fight, but I haven't heard anyone complaining about that.

Why hasn't our Democratic governor, Terry McAuliffe, identified and condemned them?

Why hasn't the MSM identified and condemned them?

Does their failure to ID those extremist groups and condemn them for their own participation make them culpable for their violence or sympathetic to those groups and their agenda?

I'm glad Trump and Pence came out and identified and condemned the white nationalists/Kluckers/neo-Nazis by name but I won't be holding my breath waiting for McAuliffe and his fellow hypocrites on the Left do the same about the violent ANSWERniks who rioted in C'ville, which speaks to their rank hypocrisy and double-standards (or is it 'silence is consent'?). It's not hard to see that the only thing they really care about here is making political gain out of this situation (not surprising coming out of McAuliffe since he's rumored to be planning to run for president in 2020). If they were truly concerned about the violence they would have condemned both sides as Trump did.

I live near C'ville and not only am I disgusted by the pukes responsible for turning that town into a war zone, I'm disgusted with the people who are seeking political gain out of the violence and I'm disappointed to see it going on here in this forum. I'm seeing more finger-pointing and less soul-searching which tells me we're not going to learn anything from this episode and the violence is going to continue. It would be nice if something came out of Heather Heyer's death but it doesn't look like that is going to happen, which means she'll have died for nothing. That's sad, and who will be responsible for that?

PS. Glad you like the avatar. It's good to know that some people are capable of appreciating it.

 

Ironic considering the perpetual criticism of Obama was that he was too contemplative and it would take him forever to make decisions. If I were President, my answers, however, would be, "which actions are you talking about? I am too busy running **** to obsess about whatever those retards are doing so you will need to be more specific".

 

It is spam the CURRENT EVENTS with "OMG! Trump is a White Supremacist" threads day. Well, they aren't spamming "Russian Collusion" threads.

 

Just how many people did the "violent left" kill at this protest?

 

You didn't answer my question:

What was the other side that deserved to be condemned for its violence at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando or the Christmas party in San Bernadino?

The point you're desperately trying to avoid is that both sides were not responsible for the violence in Orlando and San Bernadino, but both sides were responsible for the violence in Charlottesville.

False equivalence on your part...

 

I know, rocks, bottles, urine and mace are just love gifts from the left.

 

So they weren't violent because they didn't kill someone?

Yes, let's ignore, excuse or diminish their violence because it wasn't lethal this time. Never mind that 2 cops died on account of this whole affair and the inability of both sides to conduct themselves in a lawful and non-violent manner...

 

No, he called an egregious display of violence "on many sides." There was only one side that killed someone in Charlottesville. He refused to single them out at that particular time. It's pretty much moot now that he's made another statement today, but I think it's a legitimate concern when an act of domestic terrorism occurs and the president refuses to call out the group responsible for it at the time.

And before you warm up your tu quoque fallacy engine, I agree Obama should have been calling radical Islamic terrorism what it is.

 

Are the nationalists on a side.

 

Only one side killed someone and seriously injured others. The president failed to call out the group responsible for a domestic terrorist attack, at the time. He made a better statement today, which is good. His first address of the issue was recognized by leaders on both sides, and by white supremacists, as a failure to properly condemn neo-Nazis, et al.

 

That may be your position, but I can assure you that it's not mine.

 

None that anyone is aware of.

 

If you want to excuse, ignore or diminish their "violence" because it wasn't lethal this time, that's your call. All I was asking for a factual answer which I guess you are unable to give at this time.

 

Not true. I saw wounded on both sides. Lots of good old fashioned brawls.

 

No one is pre-judging a criminal case. None of us have any power over that case. All I'm doing is exercising basic logic and reasoning skills after watching the video. No sane, reasonable person could deny that the driver deliberately charged into those people. He's guilty as hell. That's not judging a case, that's just basic intellectual honesty.

 

It's all about state of mind, like that matters. But legally, it does.

 

Thank you for an honest, factual answer; that's something that many conservative leaning posters in here were unable to do.

While I'm not condoning the launching of rocks, urine or other impedimenta towards each other, there are certain levels of violence, murder being at the top and perhaps as an example shoving or pushing would be at the lower end of the violence scale. The Alt-right storm troopers showed up obviously expecting violence to occur since many of them were dressed and armed for the occasion; the Left showed up not expecting the highest level of violence that occurred, particularly when this car ran down many protesters. Needless to say, many people were shocked by the high level of violence that occurred at this protest. It's one thing to throw rocks, bottles, etc; as a rule there is no intent to kill someone, however a car is a formidable weapon as evidenced by the carnage created by just one car traveling at a high rate of speed with the main intent to either kill or injure.

 

Both sides engaged in violence. Both sides deserve to be condemned.

Just because one of the sides that turned Charlottesville into a war zone Saturday didn't kill someone this time doesn't earn them a pass on their violence.

Our governor, Terry McAulifee, has failed to call out the Leftist groups responsible for the violence in Charlottesville on Saturday. To this day he has not made a better statement, which is not good.

Clearly, the Leftists who helped turn Charlottesville into a war zone Saturday are getting a pass, and so is our governor who has failed to identify and condemn the groups responsible for it.

This spectacle of partisan amorality and hypocrisy doesn't deserve a pass, either.

 

Really? I can't turn on the radio or visit a political forum without someone bringing that up. Both leftists and alt-righties showed up armed and looking for a fight. Pretending it was only one side is pure fantasy.

You'll have to ask them.

If your answer to my charge that Trump is being hypocritical is just to point out other people being hypocritical, then you've kind of missed the point.

Yes, hopefully this is a "pivot" of Trump's that will stick. We'll see. But the only person responsible for Heather Heyer's death is the guy who ran her over. If you want to blame anyone for the general "war zone," there is plenty of blame to go around on both sides of the aisle. The left needs to quit pretending that all of those protesters were peaceful and the right needs to quit burying their heads in the sand every time an alt-right terrorist is revealed.