Wrong to blame all Muslims for terrorism; Right to blame all white supremacists for Charlottesville

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  1. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    That about sum it up, lefties? When an Islamic terrorist attack happens we are told that the actions of one person (or several, or hundreds, or thousands, etc) is not grounds to blame the entire group, yet one protestor runs over an antifa counter-protestor (a group that has been long associated with violence) and the entire group is blamed. Where's the consistency? Or does that matter if something is politically useful?
     
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    This sums it up quite nicely.

    If ISIS rammed a car into a crowd this would be labeled quickly & logically. Charlottesville - call it what it is, domestic terrorism. ~ Eric Holder

    Seriously. It’s not like some guy shot up a military base and people tried to call it “workplace violence.” ~ Jay Caruso
     
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    "Queens man cuffed for trying to push straphanger onto Harlem subway tracks; yelled, 'I hate white people'"

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...h-straphanger-harlem-tracks-article-1.2884884

    The guy's views were never investigated. They didn't look into his online posting behavior. Atlantablackstar or any of the black nationalist/supremacist hangout sites were blamed. They didn't look into whether he was involved in any "hate groups".

    Just one of many examples of the double standard at work.
     
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    False comparison. It would have been more accurate to say wrong to blame all Muslims for terrorism; wrong to blame all white conservatives for Charlottesville.
     
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    Muslims are a religion

    white supremacists are a hate group

    big difference
     
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    That's exactly why it is a false comparison. All Muslims are not terrorists, but all white supremacists are buy definition part of a hate group.
     
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    You've got to be ****ing kidding me!:icon_jawdrop:
     
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    some idiots think Islam is a violent, extremist hate group
     
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    It's not a false comparison at all. White supremacists have an ideology, just like Muslims have an ideology. If one person who subscribes to an ideology commits a violent act and its wrong to blame the rest of the group for it, why would it be right to blame another group for the actions of 1 member?
     
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    Your labeling doesn't mean anything. A religious group subscribes to a certain ideology, which is no different than what a political group subscribes to.
     
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    Once again, your side sets up the dialogue and then pisses and moans when it is used in a different context.
     
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    All Muslims subscribe to an ideology that can easily be considered violent and supremacist in nature.

    "Hate group" in most instances is nothing more than a nebulous left-wing buzzword to lump in people and groups that don't go along with the progressive agenda.
     
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    So if I understand you...The religion of Islam is equated to white Supremacists hate groups?

    Have you sunk THAT low?

    I guess when Trump comes out in defense of these groups like he did today...you feel you have that right
     
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    About as substantive as I expected. Thanks.
     
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    What dialogue did my side set up, exactly?
     
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    You're really not aware that the Qur'an teaches the supremacy of Muslims over non-Muslims? Do you just listen to MSNBC telling you that Islam is your friend, and you accept it blindly? Or can brown people do no wrong in your eyes?
     
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    most Muslims are not brown people.

    such is a racist and ignorant idea
     
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    "Wrong to blame all Muslims for terrorism; Right to blame all white supremacists for Charlottesville"

    Yes.

    In your own title, you make that point.

    You can't blame a religion for their zealots/extremists, but you CAN blame Supremists for the actions of Supremists.
     
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    In this instance it does most of the major white supremacist groups have been designated as terrorist groups. He is not labeling them a majority of your countrymen are. Rightly so I might add. Any group that advocates, participates, or supports violence for political purposes is by definition a terrorist organisation. I firmly believe these groups should be able to protest and voice their bile but they do not seem to want to stop at just voicing their opinions. They demand actions of their adherents and get it.
     
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    But why is that? What gives a religious group a pass? They're simply a group unified behind a specific ideology, no different than what a political group does.
     
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    The entire group of Muslims aren't extremist asshats.

    Supremists are.

    No one or group of ones is supreme.
     
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    no, they're just the different names you use for your own comfort. 'hate group' isn't even a thing.
     
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    "All Muslims subscribe to an ideology that can easily be considered violent and supremacist in nature."
     
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    Once again your hypocrisy and double standard strip away all credibility from you argument
     

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