A Major turning point in the Trump Saga

FINE!!!. . . . Play the devil's advocate, but you'll not get MY validation.

I'm done casting my pearls.

 

You guys have tried this narrative with half a dozen stories now

The President has crossed a line and will soon fall!

God, shut the F up and actually debate the topics at hand. All you guys do is vilify people just like the Russia nonsense, ifthis continues I could see the Dems losing again farily easily

 

Regardless of whether Trump said the right thing or not - the point here is that the major backlash coming out of GOP leaders represents a simmering backlash that is starting to blow the lid off the pot. Something is up.

 

Are you a white nationalist? If so can you tell me your narrative of what white nationalism is, it's goals and beliefs?

 

You can feel anger but you don't get to throw the first punch.

I am not a White Nationalist (I can't be, I am Asian) but I am a sympathizer. If you want to know what they want, best to spend some time on Stormfront. Or whatever site that they congregate on.

 

Correct is backed by an authority, so what authority backs your claim of "race realists" as being the correct term?

It's not natural for me nor is it ingrained in my nature. I could no more be a racist than I could be a rapist. Not saying the two are alike, but I personally find both to be actions that are repulsive to me. Why are they repulsive to me? Because it is not in my nature to be a racist or a rapist.

Source citation needed for the above claim in the form of a link to an objective body of research.

But you do need it if you are making an argument such as "In fact, it is quite natural. It's ingrained in our nature.". How you specifically feel is anecdotal just as is how I specifically feel.

In a free country it is unrealistic to believe that one can have their feelings without being "insulted, reprimanded, or scolded." I have my feelings and I am insulted on a regular basis here on the forums. Free speech cannot be limited to speech that I like and people are free to oppose my views. I prefer that people oppose my views civilly, but I objectively understand that that will not always be the case.

 

I don't think there is an "authority" on what name is proper to call them. I just go by what they call themselves. It's certainly better/more accurate than going by the (mostly) pejorative names that other people have been assigning them.

Maybe you are an exception. My experience has been that most people are more or less racist. Some of them just don't know it themselves.

You are free to think being a racist is repulsive. I think it's not.

Indeed I can't. I am not good with Google nor technology in general. I just go by the articles that I had read before that other posters linked to.

I never said that just because it's how I feel, that means racism must be human nature. I am just voicing my opinion, which is that people should not ridicule, insult, reprimand or otherwise use social pressure in order to "shame" racists into recanting. To me this is a form of bullying.

People have the freedom of thought. People can think whatever thoughts they want, even racist ones.

All I am saying is that people should try not to use social pressure to shame racists into recanting. However I am not demanding this. I know that people can have any sort of reactions to what I have to say.

 

Ask your conservative gun-toting friends how they feel about not firing the first shot.

 

Got a link to the news article?

Also, they are not "my friends". I don't know any of them personally.

 

Interesting. In what way do you sympathize with white nationalists?

 

There are many many things. Just off the top of my head, I agree with them that they should get to live among their own people. Also, it is good to make sure the States remain a white-majority nation. There are many I just can't remember right now but I can say with confidence that I agree with a lot of their stances.

 

YOU should spend some time studying the Holocaust and history of the KKK. Do you sympathize with mass-murderers and pedophiles, too???

 

White Nationalists aren't all past KKK members. Also, genocide and pedophilia are not necessarily an inherent part of the KKK (much less White Nationalism).

 

Yes, but I'd keep a close eye on your PC! Many will claim to not be racially biased but unknowingly we all are, very interesting read what happen to AI when allowed to to learn from our Social media..

How artificial intelligence learns to be racist

 

If there is no authority then it is all subjective. I like to label others how they label themselves, but I see no unified label put forth by the white nationalists or whatever they individually label themselves as.

Anecdotal as opposed to a scientific fact. Anecdotes are fine, I use them often, but I tend not to argue them as facts applied to large groups of people or all humanity.

Are you OK with racism? If so, why?

Fair enough, but I too read many articles and find that in many cases the source citation is thin to nonexistent, based upon anecdotes rather than sourced facts, or the chain of evidence is broken, or the source data does not back claims made in the article, etc. For me to take an article as fact I need to vet it first as opposed to reading it and accepting it because it seems plausible or because it conforms to a bias that I have aka confirmation bias.

Well said and I agree. I apologize, not for my current actions, but I have in the past been one of those bullies and I apologize to all for my past behavior. I honestly seek to understand the other side as opposed to just throwing out ad hominem attacks at that which is strange to me.

I agree so long as those thoughts do not lead to violence or the espousal of violence.

 

Lots of respect for you, Robini123.

 

Why is that good?

 

Many reasons. For one, I don't want there to be too many minorities. I think they will drag the society down. They are also dark and ugly. White people bring order, justice, beauty and stability to a society. We need more White people in the world.

 

. . . .But have been associated with. . . . And certainly with Nazis.

Any RESPECTABLE American would not march with them.

 

Not quite sure what you are saying. Are you saying that a lot of Nazis were pedophiles?

 

STAY IN CANADA.

 

I agree that there are some racist that do not see themselves as racist. As I pride myself on my objectivity I have to admit that it is a possibility that I am racist but am blind to it. So if you or anyone else can find a post of mine where I said something racist, I would appreciate it being pointed out. I withhold the right to determine for myself if the presented quote is racist or not and request that any quote of mine also include a direct link to the source post.

Racist: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
"the comments have led to her being called a racist"
synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist More
"he was exposed as a racist"
(racially) discriminatory, racialist, prejudiced, bigoted
"a racist society"
adjective
noun: racist; plural noun: racists; adjective: racist
1.
showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another. (Source Google)

 

Yes, and every other form of perversion, including sadism.

 

I will try but it's hard. American boys (especially the racist ones) are very hot.

 

Since you don't see the logic, why bother???