Mayweather VS McGregor...my take

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  1. jmblt2000

    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    Alright, everyone has their favorites, but lets put some facts on the table.

    1) The Octagon is 30' across, the ring is 16' - 24' but most are 20' across. Anyone who is a fan of both sports as I am will tell you that McGregor is great at cutting off and chasing down his opponent, Mayweather is great at hit and run. (advantage McGregor)

    2) The octagon has no corners to trap an opponent, the ring has 4. McGregor traps Mayweather in a corner, the fight is over. Advantage McGregor

    3) Mayweather is 40, McGregor is 29. Can Mayweather run for 12 rounds against a younger fighter? Can McGregor go for 12 rounds, granted they are only 3 minute rounds, McGregor is used to 5 minute rounds. Advantage Mayweather.

    4) Mayweather is 5'8", reach is 72", weight 146 lbs. McGregor is 5'9", 74" reach, last fight 155 lbs. McGregor will cut the weight for weigh in and be back around 160 for the fight, advantage McGregor.

    My analysis is that if Mayweather sticks to his previous fights and hits and runs, he'll outpoint McGregor and win in 12 rounds. If Mayweather tries to stand and bang with McGregor, then he will get knocked out. Even if McGregor goes the distance and loses, he still wins...He went 12 rounds with one of the greatest boxers. For this to be a win for Mayweather, he has to knockout McGregor and I just don't see that happening.

    Only time will tell, but my money will be on McGregor.

    By the way, Marciano is still the greatest boxer of all time. 49 - 0, 43 knockouts, retired at 32, that's after fighting in WWII.
     
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    I got Floyd.

    But, this fight is the greatest money grab in history.

    (If they can max out the PPV) Floyd could make $200+ Million, McGregor about $75 Mil.

    The only reason this fight isn't Mayweather -1000 is that so many "nickel bettors" are pounding McGregor.

    The odds on Floyd have been dropping steadily as Vegas needs money on Floyd to avoid what could be the biggest ass kicking the Vegas books have ever taken (if Conor wins).

    It isn't really going out on a limb for anybody to pick Floyd.

    Floyd should win.

    Like I said, the odds should be about -1000.

    The only intrigue is whether Floyd can knock him out and what round.
     
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    Marciano has the greatest UNDEFEATED record of all-time.

    And, I would agree he ranks in the solid Top 5 of the Greatest Heavyweights of all time.

    But, across ALL weight classes he wouldn't even rank in the Top 10.
     
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    Total cash grab. Conor will be rocked. He has no boxing pedigree, and I am pretty sure Floyd has fought heavier hitters.

    That being said, I am NOT spending 40 bucks to sit at some shitty bar to watch the fight, nor will I spend 100 on a clearly overpriced waste of time and money.

    Guess I'll periscope it.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    My take...

     
  6. jmblt2000

    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    [Quote/] Marciano has the greatest UNDEFEATED record of all-time. And, I would agree he ranks in the solid Top 5 of the Greatest Heavyweights of all time.

    But, across ALL weight classes he wouldn't even rank in the Top 10. [Quote/]

    That is your opinion, I'll stick with Marciano as the best of all time. But please put forth your top ten. And we can debate it.
     
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    But Conor is not a boxer. The only way the fight will go beyond one round is if Money carries him.




    I remember the Rock back in the day. Luckily for him, he fought in an era where the HW division was comparatively weak. His best opponents were aged and overweight LHW's who went up in weight. Later in life there was talk of proposals for him to come out of retirement and take on Sonny Liston. But he declined and boxing historians have kept that deal out of wraps because they like to perpetuate his image as an invincible.
     
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    To your Number 3 Point: Mayweather SPECIALIZES in tiring out HIS opponents.

    Mayweather is going to CRUSH the Irishman. If this were in the Octagon...the Irishman would CRUSH Mayweather.
     
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    That is the way to go.

    Ever since Periscope and Facebook Live became a thing, there have been tons of Livestream links to big PPV events.

    Livestream links to the fight are already popping up everywhere.
     
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    Yep. The 99 dollar charge is INSANE. They totally are bloating this way out of proportion.
     
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    A lot of people agree with your assessment.

    Many feel that the only question is how long Floyd "carries" Conor, just so he gives people their money's worth.
     
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    Imagine paying 10k for ringside and having Floyd destroy him in one round?
     
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    Great point
     
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    There are several lists of the Greatest Pound-for-Pound Fighters that can easily be found on a Google search.

    The consensus of the vast majority (if not all) of those lists, is that Marciano falls short of the Top 10 Pound-for-Pound.

    I saw a couple of lists (that I basically agree with) that had him ranked 14 and 15.

    I am an adherent to the conventional wisdom (shared by the overwhelming majority of boxing experts) that the Greatest Pound-for-Pound Boxer of All-Time was:

    Sugar Ray Robinson..
     
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    I've been watching live stream sports for over 12 years. If you are a sports fan, you should never bother paying for cable/satellite as they are expensive and live streams cost nothing while giving you many viewing options. I have watched pro wrestling, boxing, ufc, Olympics, cricket, rugby and many other sports that way.
     
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    I don't think Floyd hits hard enough to take out the Irishman. However, if Connor can hit him a few times hard before he is out of gas, he has got a good punchers chance. Mayweather ducked Manny Paquio for ten years. Also Mayweather fights have always been boring spectacles with him pitter pattering weak punches and running throughout the whole fights. I hope Connor flattens hm after beating his ass for 8-9 rounds.
     
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    Yeah.

    There also seems to be a lot of BIG Money pouring in on Floyd.

    A lot of Million Dollar bets in the -450 range (that would net a win of 200k+).

    Part of me wonders if Floyd could knock him out right away (but he decides to carry him).

    Then, I think it would be awesome for Floyd to knock him out in 2 or 3 rounds (with a first round throw down as brutal as Hearns-Hagler).

    But, of course, Floyd is too careful to mix it up and get close enough to give Conor a "Puncher's Chance".

    Floyd will size him up and fight the best STRATEGIC fight.

    That said, Conor is way outclassed and is probably a paper tiger.
     
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    If this were real boxing with no money involved, Mayweather would beat him in 3 or less rounds.
     
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    Totally.

    At this point, with the technology that has "workarounds" for cable boxes/fire sticks/etc., it is crazy to pay for a PPV.
     
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    A lot of professional people said that Trump wouldn't be nominated and then couldn't win the presidency. A lot of people say that McGregor was never a boxer and is fighting the best boxer in modern history, McGregor is not going in there to box Mayweather, he's going in there to fight Mayweather. His style is not boxing, it's martial arts under boxing rules...We will know in about 30 hours.

    As for Sugar Ray Robinson being the best of all time, the same could be said that there were no quality opponents for him, the only known name is Jake Lamotta...And he lost to people he never should have lost to...Like Tyson losing to James 'Buster' Douglas. Robinson's career spanned 25 years with a record of 173 wins, 19 losses, 6 draws, 2 no contests, 108 KO's.

    Marciano had one fight in 1947, fought from 1948 - 1955, retired in 1956 an undisputed, undefeated champion. Marciano's record was 49 wins, 0 losses, 43 KO's. For those who say he never fought anyone, Marciano KO'd Joe Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott, Roland La Starza, Ezzard Charles, Don Cockell, and his last fight he KO's Archie Moore who had a record as impressive as Sugar Ray Robinson. Moore's record was 186 wins, 23 losses, 10 draws, 1 no contest, 132 KO's.

    Marciano had a career that spanned basically 8 years, having only one fight in 1947 and none in 1956 when he retired.

    As for Mayweather knocking out McGregor, I just don't see it happening. This will either be another boring Mayweather fight where he tap taps and runs, or he tries to KO McGregor and gets hit in return. The big question is can Mayweather still go 12 rounds on 40 year old legs and knockout someone with the problems he has had with his hands?
     
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    Mayweather will dance around and win by points. Connor can't use 80% of the tools at his disposal and half of his mental energy will be used up with "Oh can't do that" Nuts, I am not allowed to do that" etc. If this were an actual fight with no limits on what you can do then Connor would own Mayweather but since its just boxing then Mayweather will have advantages despite being 75 years old.
     
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    Conner is good as a glorified street fighter, and it doesn't take talent. Mayweather is a talented boxer and it takes years to reach his plateau. He may have not trained properly for this dance, thinking it would be no contest. But if he did, lights out. Conner has 0 boxing experience, but it is not difficult for him to just use his fists and footwork. In this area he cannot compete.
     
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    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    I was wrong Mayweather TKO in the tenth, McGregor lost.
     
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    Looks like your money is lost.
     
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    jmblt2000 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, but if any Mayweather fan watched the fight, you cannot tell me there was not a little bit of concern the first 3 rounds.
     
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