ISRAEL PREPARES FOR ANOTHER WAR WITH HEZBOLLAH AS IDF PRACTICES LEBANON INVASION

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  1. jimmy rivers

    jimmy rivers Well-Known Member

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    They talk of colonialism but ignore how iran is colonizing syria, and the arab muslims are colonizing north africa displacing the berbers, or how the arab muslims are ethnically cleansing the yazidis, coptics, maronites, chaldeands, maneachans, azeri, bahai, and baluchis out of the mideast.
     
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    lol A sock puppet for whom ? You're a tad paranoid aren't you. Bless !!!

    :lol:
     
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    Anyone who does not place the blame on iran for syria is badly uninformed. One can argue obama's inactions and failings gave iran the opening to step in and mass murder.

    Remind me what other groups are living with arab muslims with sovereign, equal rights in an arab muslim country? There are reasons why they cannot get along with anyone else.

    As for "solving" the issue - there are entities like iran, hez and hamas who NEED the conflict to continue, it allows them to justify their warlike existence to the clueless, uneducated masses suffering under their governance.
     
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    Most of the reason for the upset in the Middle East Is Israel and her servants, the US, UK and Saudi Arabia. Israel has an Occupation to maintain and illegal settlements to build and it has to fund them someway or other, her arms industry.

    "Israel, spreading death and destruction .......... at a bargain price "
     
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    1) you do not know any Syrians
    2) your claim that Assad killed 1 million Syrians is laughable nonsense .. which is typical of many of your posts.
     
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    The uninformed one is you. It was arming and supporting Islamist Jihadists (including Al Qaeda and the Islamist's that later formed ISIS) by countries such as your beloved Saud that caused the massive humanitarian crisis in Syria.
     
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    It is about Land and always has been about Land. Now had they worked along lines like PICA and worked with the Palestinians increasing their well being as well, including them, then some kind of Jewish home I think would have been well respected. There was no problem with antisemitism then, they liked the new Jewish immigrants. During the early period zionists were denying they were wanting a State and claiming it was just going to be some kind of cultural home. This could have worked. It could have worked because it was something that both could have benefited from.

    However after the Balfour Declaration European Jews arrived who had no problems telling the Arabs they were after their homeland. They wanted an ethnic Nationalist state just like other Europeans had been creating. They did not want Arabs anywhere near them and even complained that some of their taxes went to help the arabs. They wanted to create a State in someone else's homeland and they did not want the indigenous population around them. They also did not want democracy in Palestine as they knew if that was so they could not get what they wanted their ethnic Nationalist State. Obviously ethnic nationalist States one want one ethnicity, which they believe to be superior.

    Before this Muslims, Christians and Jews in the main lived peacefully together throughout the ME. Irony what that the ME was one of the least sectarian areas around until Europeans and I definitely am including the British and French took over.

    So that is what you have. Europeans up to their old tricks of Colonialism and Imperialism in another people's land.

    How can you think for one minute that it is about anything but about land....
     
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    Read the article Ieft and get some knowledge on something.


    well I never said that. The bullshit comes from you making things up and generally trolling.
     
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    What I wrote was true. You untrue personal attack reply goes against forum rules and has been reported.
     
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    Israel kicked out 750,000 Palestinian Arabs in 1948 and 1949.

    never allowed to return.

    so dont talk
     
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    The spin is that it was a good deal. It was not. You were listening to spin just like you were when someone told you 1,000,000 arabs attacks Israel. More like 25,000 and way less in number than the Jews who they fought against. Did you check out the link I gave? He is an Israeli Jew. One who has been living there since before there was an Israel, one who fought in that war and someone who has been a member of the Knesset. Try it.
     
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    I don't know where you get your info, but Israel is still being attacked by Palestinians, etc. Years ago and today. They and most others
    think that Iran is responsible for much unrest in the Middle East, and I don't blame them for their interest in Saudi Arabia, or any other state that has the capability to challenge Iran.
     
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    I am glad to see the small sliver of land where people can safely be Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Gay and atheist. There is no place like it in the region.
     
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    My information comes from about 30 years of following the conflict and speaking to people living in the region and from all sides. I don't know where you are getting your information but it's very like the fake news websites and Israeli Hasbara. There is no comparison between what you would call Palestinian "attacks" and Israel violence and savagery.

    1. Israel is the 4th strongest military in the world with hi-tech weaponry and $billions worth of heavy equipment, an army, navy and airforce.

    The Palestinians have kitchen knives , sometimes cars and that's it. Oh and homemade lo tech rockets from Gaza every so often so that the world doesn't forget the inhuman ,medieval siege that Israel has on the strip for the last 10 years. Almost 2 million Gazans in one of the worlds biggest open air prisons.

    2. Israel as complete power over a whole population. They can do whatever they wish to the people they occupy, from demolishing their homes, colleges and schools,
    allowing rabid settlers to take over their homes, burn their crops and attack their children, murder them in their homes, while the IOF stands by and protects the settlers,
    making them homeless,
    limiting and disrupting their worship in both churches and mosques,
    disrupting water and electricity supplies to villages near illegal settlements
    murder and assassination without trial. to name but a few things they inflict on a largely unarmed and defenceless people.

    Don't forget that as a people under Belligerent Occupation the Palestinians are allowed to protect themselves and fight back if they had the means

    Israel is breaking every rule of the Geneva conventions and rules of decency.

    The biggest cause of unrest is the region is Israel, the US and Saudi Arabia. The new axis of evil.
     
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    My info is different from yours. The Palestinian people are sweet, but the government and terrorist organization that permeates the
    area are not. It is Israel that fights back, not the Palestinians.
     
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    "Not in any way" ???
    - Reliance on ancient fables to create nationalism
    - Identification of a race of Ubermenschen, and their eternal enemies, the Untermenschen who exist solely to undermine the former.
    - Expensionism/Lebensraum
    - Militaristic regime
    - Demonization of opponents as "terrorists" and their incarceration in concentration camps.

    Both are from the same era, and same place. Nazis themselves were "zionists" before the Final Solution. Herzl himself hoped for troubles like there were in Germany so his zion project would work. Zionists are very comparable to nazis.
     
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    You just continue along your merry way. Bull sht
     
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    Your efforts to ignore the elephant in the living room impress no one.
     
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    The ordinary Palestinians are some of the most hospitable people you could meet. Despite their miserable lives they are unendingly cheerful and welcoming. It is a tiny minority of freedom fighters who attack Israel , which they are entitled to do but Israel is the aggressor. Here is just one small example of what Palestinians have to live with every single day of their lives.

    "Palestinian library volunteer dies weeks after brutal Israeli assault
    Nora Barrows-Friedman 6 September 2017

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    Raed al-Salhi (Facebook)

    On Sunday, a Palestinian youth died of injuries he suffered last month when Israeli soldiers shot him seven times at point blank range after breaking into his home in a pre-dawn raid.

    He is the latest victim of habitual Israeli raids on Dheisheh refugee camp near Bethlehem, in the occupied West Bank.

    A resident told The Electronic Intifada that in recent months Israeli forces have raided the camp almost every night.

    Raed al-Salhi, 22, was snatched by undercover soldiers from his bed on 9 August, assaulted, shot and dragged for half an hour through the alleyways of the camp, according to Israeli daily Haaretz.

    The raid was carried out by undercover agents of the Duvdevan unit who frequently disguise themselves as Palestinian civilians – so-called mistaravim.

    Soldiers took al-Salhi to Hadassah hospital in Jerusalem, where he was placed under arrest even as he slipped into a coma. He remained unconscious in the intensive care unit until he died on 3 September.

    None of his family members were allowed to visit him and he remained under heavy guard despite his critical condition, the Palestinian Ma’an News Agency reported.

    Israeli forces also shot another man, Aziz Arafeh, in the leg, during the same raid, according to Ma’an.

    Arafeh was reportedly shackled to his hospital bed for weeks after he was shot.

    In a mockery of a judicial process, Arafeh was at one point brought before a military tribunal in a hospital bed.

    A week after the raid, Israeli forces seized al-Salhi’s brother, Bassam, during another invasion of the camp, Ma’an reported.

    Al-Salhi’s detention “was extended on several occasions by the Ofer military court under the pretext of ‘completing interrogation’ despite the fact that he was held in critical condition, unconscious and dependent on a ventilator,” reported Palestinian prisoner advocacy network Samidoun."
     
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    I would like to hear the other side of the story. We are
    referencing government activities, which works both ways. The Israeli people are decent folks also, and don't want the violence.
     
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    iran is fighting wars in yemen, iraq, syria, and causing instability in gaza, bahrain, lebanon and KSA. Try some facts on for a change.
     
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    If this lie were true gaza and lebanon would not have become terrorist strongholds used against Israel.

    Another lie that a 3rd grade history student would know to be false.

    You desperately need a history book. Go start with arab muslim wars in northern africa and across the mideast.

    So what are all those arab muslims doing running to europe?
     
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    So where was arafat's counter offer? Oh that's right, he just started a violent uprising.
     

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